Re: R&S v4 points

100% agree

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> also, all the success stories i read from people that passed the lab with
> the OEQ was that they were a piece of cake and if you know your stuff then
> you will get them correct. so why are we all talking about luck
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> thats why its good to pray before you sit the lab ;)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 2:04 AM, <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Understand what you're saying but there is a luck factor. One can't know
>>> all topics 100%. Thus you have to be lucky in the fact that the questions
>>> line up with your strong points.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jonny English <redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:00:34
>>> To: Nadeem Rafi<nrafia_at_gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Cisco League<ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com>; Atlanta CCIE<
>>> atlantaccie_at_gmail.com>; Cisco certification<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>> Subject: Re: R&S v4 points
>>>
>>> no such thing as luck if u study
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Before ccie lab was a technical thing, to add some fun, cisco put some
>>> luck
>>> > factor in lab. Now to pass cisco lab you need luck as well as tech.
>>> > knowledge.
>>> >
>>> > Have fun...
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Cisco League <
>>> ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com
>>> > >wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Look at it this way:-
>>> > >
>>> > > You read a 1000 page book (hypothetical) and someone asks you 100
>>> > questions
>>> > > and you need only 80 to pass. You error margin is huge i.e. u can get
>>> 20
>>> > > questions wrong or not don't answer 20 questions that u either don t
>>> know
>>> > > or
>>> > > r not sure of.
>>> > >
>>> > > Now if u r given enormous amount of literature and anything and
>>> > everything
>>> > > is a fair game and then u r asked only 4 questions out of which u
>>> need 3
>>> > > correct else u fail. The dynamics change. U now have error margin of
>>> > > getting
>>> > > 1 wrong and the rest three that u answer should be correct not by
>>> your
>>> > > interpretation but by what CISCO expects as an answer or is
>>> convincing to
>>> > > the proctor.
>>> > >
>>> > > If you know your stuff well and it's ur lucky day u will sail through
>>> the
>>> > > OEQs else u fail the 8hr exam in first 20 minutes.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > You win points if u know ur stuff well and possibly answer all 4
>>> > correctly
>>> > > leaving margin of one question to interpretation and come close to
>>> > passing.
>>> > > U still need you configuration portion correct.
>>> > >
>>> > > You answer more than one wrong and u fail entire lab even if u score
>>> 100%
>>> > > in
>>> > > configuration portion.
>>> > >
>>> > > In my opinion it is how you look at it. On the exam day u need so
>>> many
>>> > > things to go right in your favour to come out with a Pass. It's
>>> easier to
>>> > > fail.
>>> > >
>>> > > If someone wants to correct my thought process please do so.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie_at_gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Awesome! Now get rid of oeqs since that made passing too easy imho.
>>> > > > Free 21 points in 15 min? Can't beat that :)
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On 10/29/09, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>>> > > > > You need approximately 75-80% to pass the troubleshooting
>>> section.
>>> > You
>>> > > > > need 80% to pass the configuration section.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > thanks,
>>> > > > > Brad Ellis
>>> > > > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>> > > > > CCSI# 30482
>>> > > > > CEO / President
>>> > > > > CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>>> > > > > Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
>>> > > > > Toll Free: 877-654-2243
>>> > > > > International: +1-702-968-5100
>>> > > > > Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
>>> > > > > FAX: +1-702-446-8012
>>> > > > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
>>> > > > > Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> > > Of
>>> > > > > Jack
>>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:21 PM
>>> > > > > To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>> > > > > Subject: R&S v4 points
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > 1. OEQ: 3/4 to pass
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > 2. Troubleshouting: 10 - 12 tickets, how many points/tickets to
>>> pass?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > 3. Configuration: Some one posted that taking EGP for example,
>>> > instead
>>> > > > > of separating into THREE questions like in previous version, the
>>> new
>>> > > > > version put all tasks into ONE big question. CCIE lab exam does
>>> not
>>> > > > > grant partial credit. If there were 13 tasks all together and
>>> some
>>> > one
>>> > > > > was able to accomplish 12 tasks out of it. Does it mean that the
>>> new
>>> > > > > version will give 0% while the old version will give 66% in this
>>> > > > > section?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Thanks,
>>> > > > > Jack
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
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