Re: Cisco Safe Lab

Ken,

What kind of car do you drive?

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:59 PM, mark jackson <markcciejackson_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> ...and zero calories!
>
> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Please excuse spelling errors
>
> On Oct 28, 2009, at 4:58 PM, armylegionmedic_at_aol.com wrote:
>
> > This is better than anything Netflix has to offer.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jose manzano <josermanzano_at_gmail.com>
> > To: Cisco certification <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Wed, Oct 28, 2009 4:53 pm
> > Subject: Re: Cisco Safe Lab
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > LOL , what has Group Study become .....
> >
> > Rule # 1 = What happens in Group Study , Stays in Group Study
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Ken Denube <kd5262_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dawn is very helpful. She has worked with me a lot. I do not like
> >> to see
> >> these types of comments about her. If anyone wants to mess with
> >> her, I will
> >> run them over with my car.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
> >> Behalf Of
> >> mark
> >> jackson
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:35 PM
> >> To: Brad Ellis
> >> Cc: Dawn Tesar; Narbik Kocharians; <smorris_at_ine.com>; JR Garcia;
> >> Cisco
> >> certification
> >> Subject: Re: Cisco Safe Lab
> >>
> >> Excellent,
> >> Thank you kindly Brad :-)
> >>
> >> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> Please excuse spelling errors
> >>
> >> On Oct 28, 2009, at 4:33 PM, "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Mark,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> She just gets a little excited, that's all. She has the best of
> >>> intentions - she's just trying to set things straight with the
> >>> details
> >>> in regards to the lab safe program.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm going to try, and hopefully, end this thread and suggest if you
> >>> have
> >>> any questions about the program to contact me offlist or, if you
> >>> like,
> >>> you can contact Rick Smith at cisco (smithr_at_cisco.com) We've asked
> >>> Rick
> >>> to work with CLN to clear up the confusion.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Brad Ellis
> >>>
> >>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> >>>
> >>> CCSI# 30482
> >>>
> >>> CEO / President
> >>>
> >>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> >>>
> >>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >>>
> >>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> >>>
> >>> International: +1-702-968-5100
> >>>
> >>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
> >>>
> >>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> >>>
> >>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> >>>
> >>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
> >>> <http://www.ccbootcamp.com/>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: mark jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:28 PM
> >>> To: Dawn Tesar
> >>> Cc: Narbik Kocharians; <smorris_at_ine.com>; Brad Ellis; JR Garcia;
> >>> Cisco
> >>> certification
> >>> Subject: Re: Cisco Safe Lab
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Or joining an outfit where the Sales and Marketing Director act like
> >>> that = Terrible
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hope your better with cisco gear then sales and marketing, might
> >>> need
> >>> those digits after all...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sorry Brad, I respect you highly but you have a loose cannon on your
> >>> squad and that isn't good for business.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> Please excuse spelling errors
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 28, 2009, at 4:23 PM, "Dawn Tesar" <dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Pricing as follows:
> >>>
> >>> CIERS1 (5 day ILT Boot Camp)
> >>>
> >>> 1 Assessment Lab
> >>>
> >>> CCIE RS Advanced Lab Workbook
> >>>
> >>> CCIE RS Technology Lab Workbook
> >>>
> >>> 30 - eight hour sessions of rack time
> >>>
> >>> 1 hour mentoring session with CCIE RS Instructor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> PRICELESS, no really Total: $3144.00
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Just for putting up with all the bantering J
> >>>
> >>> I think this is justification for the Cisco Lab Safe Promotion.
> >>> Yes?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Dawn Tesar | Director, Sales and Marketing | CCBOOTCAMP
> >>>
> >>> 375 N. Stephanie Street Bldg. 21 Suite 2111, Henderson, Nevada
> >>> 89014
> >>>
> >>> Toll Free 1.877.654.2243 Intl +1.702.968.5100 Fax
> >>> 702.446.0357 Skype skype:ccbootcamp?call
> >>>
> >>> Email dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP) , Cisco
> >>> Premier Channel Partner
> >>> Yes! We take Cisco Learning Credits
> >>> CompTIA Learning Alliance Partner
> >>>
> >>> GSA Schedule 70 Contractor #GS-35F-0044V
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Mark Jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:12 PM
> >>> To: Dawn Tesar
> >>> Cc: Narbik Kocharians; smorris_at_ine.com; Brad Ellis; JR Garcia;
> >>> Cisco certification
> >>> Subject: Re: Cisco Safe Lab
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> wow, who hurt the little 'dawn' inside you...oh, your welcome
> >>> and I guess your done.
> >>>
> >>> ...note to self on what vendor not to recommend or take.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Dawn Tesar
> >>> <dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> And here is my document - read to the end please (pg 2, bulleted
> >>> points to be exact) -
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.ccbootcamp.com/collateral/360/cisco-lab-safe-
> >>> promotion.pdf
> >>>
> >>> Some of us have more information than others and that is why I
> >>> am sharing this with you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Obtain their instructor's recommendation
> >>>
> >>> Complete the Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE R&S Essentials
> >>> Package
> >>>
> >>> or a CIERS instructor-led workshop
> >>>
> >>> Score 80% or better on at least one performance assessment
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You are welcome J Are we done now?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Dawn Tesar | Director, Sales and Marketing | CCBOOTCAMP
> >>>
> >>> 375 N. Stephanie Street Bldg. 21 Suite 2111, Henderson, Nevada
> >>> 89014
> >>>
> >>> Toll Free 1.877.654.2243 Intl +1.702.968.5100 Fax
> >>> 702.446.0357 Skype skype:ccbootcamp?call
> >>>
> >>> Email dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP) , Cisco
> >>> Premier Channel Partner
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yes! We take Cisco Learning Credits
> >>> CompTIA Learning Alliance Partner
> >>>
> >>> GSA Schedule 70 Contractor #GS-35F-0044V
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Mark Jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:52 PM
> >>> To: Narbik Kocharians
> >>> Cc: Dawn Tesar; smorris_at_ine.com; Brad Ellis; JR Garcia; Cisco
> >>> certification
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: Cisco Safe Lab
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> All the bickering and barking. All the opinions and harsh tones.
> >>> All this for what? To get customers? Prove a point? You all (no
> >>> names
> >>> provided as I already said what I felt) are providing absolutely
> >>> EPIC
> >>> FAILURE... Now won't you all take a deep breath...
> >>>
> >>> For anyone reading this who thinks this is all this list is
> >>> about. Kindly forgive the BS. The kids arguing just can't provide a
> >>> document and just move on. Instead, they trump their business...not
> >>> really thinking that by all the talking their doing they are in fact
> >>> making their business look STOOPID!!!
> >>>
> >>> Here is the document
> >>> https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-5913
> >>>
> >>> Hopefully this will put an end to this, so we can all help,
> >>> learn or whatever. I'm just tired of having to hit delete every 5
> >>> seconds with no real traction.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks kindly.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Narbik Kocharians
> >>> <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> NOW....Was that different to what i mentioned?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am in this program and i do talk to RICK Smith, and sometimes
> >>> on weekly basis. I have included my 2.0 boot camp in this program
> >>> and
> >>> together the students have a better passing rate. May be the BEST
> >>> passing chance. But hey.....if a student does NOT score 80 percent
> >>> on
> >>> ONE of the labs, then, i guess i will not be recommending him/her
> >>> for a
> >>> FREE voucher, i guess after all the labs and lectures in my boot
> >>> camp if
> >>> you still score below 80 percent on all the labs, i guess you are
> >>> NOT
> >>> ready therefore, you don't qualify.
> >>>
> >>> Now once again:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 1 Attend CIERS1 or CIERS2
> >>> 2 Complete 1 Assessment Lab and score 80% or higher
> >>> 3 Instructor Recommendation
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Dawn Tesar
> >>> <dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Stop reading and start understanding -
> >>>
> >>> Let's be really clear and end this discussion, I am part of this
> >>> promotion:
> >>> If you would like to be a part of the Cisco Lab Safe Promotion -
> >>> call me, here is what you HAVE TO do:
> >>> 1 Attend CIERS1 or CIERS2
> >>> 2 Complete 1 Assessment Lab and score 80% or higher
> >>> 3 Instructor Recommendation
> >>>
> >>> Period the end. I guaranteed this to be accurate.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Dawn Tesar
> >>> CCBOOTCAMP
> >>> 1.877.654.2243
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris_at_ine.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:29 PM
> >>> To: Narbik Kocharians
> >>> Cc: smorris_at_ine.com; Dawn Tesar; mark jackson; Brad Ellis; JR
> >>> Garcia; Cisco certification
> >>> Subject: Re: Cisco Safe Lab
> >>>
> >>> I'm not doing anything but reading. Why is that so hard for
> >>> some people
> >>> to do???
> >>>
> >>> For the assessment labs, it very clearly states "Complete all
> >>> and score
> >>> 80% or higher on at least one exam"
> >>>
> >>> AND = both. Purchase FOUR assessment labs. Score above 80% on
> >>> at least
> >>> one.
> >>>
> >>> Attend the course as you stated
> >>>
> >>> AND obtain the instructor's recommendation. While we may like
> >>> to assume
> >>> that's an automatic thing, clearly it is not otherwise they
> >>> wouldn't
> >>> bother putting that in there.
> >>>
> >>> Beyond that, I'm not making anything up, but it would be very
> >>> nice to
> >>> have people read their own marketing stuff. And it says that
> >>> "All
> >>> components must be marked complete" blah, blah, blah.
> >>>
> >>> I repeat, I don't have anything against the program or the Safe
> >>> Lab...
> >>> Just against sales folks not knowing their own rules and trying
> >>> to sell
> >>> something without full disclosure. And yes, I hold the same
> >>> principles
> >>> towards anyone selling anything in life, so it's nothing new.
> >>>
> >>> If that's unbelievable for you, I'm sorry about that. Notice
> >>> that in
> >>> NONE of the posts did I say "gee, go someplace else instead" or
> >>> name
> >>> anything else. So how about you figure out what the program is
> >>> that
> >>> you are involved in and between yourselves quit making shit up?
> >>> THAT is
> >>> the point.
> >>>
> >>> Principles. New concept. Nothing more needs to be said about
> >>> it, so
> >>> feel free to come out with another "unbelievable" commentary.
> >>> I'm done
> >>> with it.
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Narbik Kocharians wrote:
> >>>> Scott,
> >>>>
> >>>> Why do you like to confuse everyone? I read the rules and
> >>> spoke to Netmaster
> >>>> and some people in Cisco, its amazing how you have the ability
> >>> to twist the
> >>>> words around. Mate the rule is very SIMPLE, if you attend
> >>> CIERS-1 and score
> >>>> 80 or better and god forbid you fail the lab, upon instructors
> >>>> recommendation Cisco will give that student a FREE voucher.
> >>> NOW...Which part
> >>>> is NOT clear? If you like i can get Netmaster people to second
> >>> what i am
> >>>> saying here.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is unbelievable what some will do these days............
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Scott Morris
> >>> <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Well said... But you may consider telling the Cisco
> >>> Marketing people
> >>>>> about their own program since clearly you know it better than
> >>> they do! ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The publicly facing document has pretty clear guidelines for
> >>> all the
> >>>>> stuff you have to purchase and accomplish in order to "fit
> >>> the criteria"
> >>>>> for the free lab resit. I believe a GS Archive search will
> >>> see that
> >>>>> too, but it's ok.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-5857
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not sure why I need to know more about your programs than
> >>> you do,
> >>>>> but it's ok. Just like used cars... Taxes, fees, licenses,
> >>> delivery
> >>>>> to destination, titling all separate (but required).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> >>> Provider) #4713,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> >>>>>
> >>>>> evil_at_ine.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com<http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> >>> <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Outside US: 775-826-4344
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Knowledge is power.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Power corrupts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Narbik Kocharians wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Well said. How could one even think about grey market?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Dawn Tesar
> >>> <dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >>>>>> <mailto:dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Actually... take it from someone who knows the Cisco 360
> >>> Program -
> >>>>>> you only have to buy a single class and a graded
> >>> assessment to be
> >>>>>> a part of the Cisco Lab Safe. :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well worth the protection. And it doesn't cost a cent
> >>> more than
> >>>>>> grey market. HMMMM... what would I choose?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Dawn Tesar | Director, Sales and Marketing | CCBOOTCAMP
> >>>>>> 375 N. Stephanie Street Bldg. 21 Suite 2111, Henderson,
> >>> Nevada 89014
> >>>>>> Toll Free 1.877.654.2243 Intl +1.702.968.5100 Fax
> >>> 702.446.0357
> >>>>>> Skype skype:ccbootcamp?call
> >>>>>> Email dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com <mailto:dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP) ,
> >>> Cisco
> >>>>>> Premier Channel Partner
> >>>>>> Yes! We take Cisco Learning Credits
> >>>>>> CompTIA Learning Alliance Partner
> >>>>>> GSA Schedule 70 Contractor #GS-35F-0044V
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: mark jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com
> >>>>>> <mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com>]
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:25 PM
> >>>>>> To: smorris_at_ine.com <mailto:smorris_at_ine.com>
> >>>>>> Cc: Brad Ellis; JR Garcia; Cisco certification; Dawn
> >>> Tesar
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Anyone ever take a Hienz Ulm class?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ...mental note made ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>> Please excuse spelling errors
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Scott Morris
> >>> <smorris_at_ine.com
> >>>>>> <mailto:smorris_at_ine.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> hehehehe... While that made me laugh out loud, I'd
> >>> still at least
> >>>>>>> caution that it's not the WHOLE story.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You have to purchase several other things to be part
> >>> of the
> >>>>>> Cisco Safe
> >>>>>>> Lab program.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So I think you have to BUY the screwdriver set in
> >>> order to get the
> >>>>>>> special case.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> mark jackson wrote:
> >>>>>>>> ...but wait there's more! Act now and receive
> >>> absolutely free,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> this
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> free screwdriver set.
> >>>>>>>> Sorry, could resist (hehe)
> >>>>>>>> All great people JR and well worth looking at ;-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>> Please excuse spelling errors
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 2:42 PM, "Brad Ellis"
> >>> <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >>>>>> <mailto:brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> JR,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you book your class with CCBOOTCAMP (my company),
> >>> you will
> >>>>>> get a
> >>>>>>>>> free
> >>>>>>>>> retake of not only our class, but if you fail your
> >>> lab exam, with
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> Cisco 360 lab safe program, you will also get a free
> >>> retake of
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> lab
> >>>>>>>>> exam as well.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> thanks,
> >>>>>>>>> Brad Ellis
> >>>>>>>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> >>>>>>>>> CCSI# 30482
> >>>>>>>>> CEO / President
> >>>>>>>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> >>>>>>>>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >>> <mailto:brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
> >>>>>>>>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> >>>>>>>>> International: +1-702-968-5100
> >>>>>>>>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
> >>>>>>>>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> >>>>>>>>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> >>>>>>>>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
> >>>>>> <http://www.ccbootcamp.com/>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> >>> <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
> >>>>>> [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> >>> <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>] On
> >>>>>> Behalf
> >>>>>>>>> Of
> >>>>>>>>> JR Garcia
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:40 AM
> >>>>>>>>> To: Cisco certification
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Anyone ever take a Hienz Ulm class?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> was looking at taking a class spring 2010 before
> >>> making an
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> attempt
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> lab.
> >>>>>>>>> has any one ever attended one of his classes? the
> >>> other vendors
> >>>>>>>>> offer a
> >>>>>>>>> lab/lecture type class, but i really don't want any
> >>> lecture. i
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> can
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> read
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> watch videos on my own time to learn the
> >>> technologies.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> leaving home for 3 weeks with no distractions and
> >>> just
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> configuring
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> everyday
> >>>>>>>>> with someone there to give guidance is really
> >>> appealing to me.
> >>>>>> seems
> >>>>>>>>> like a
> >>>>>>>>> good way to finish up studying before an attempt. i
> >>> haven't been
> >>>>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> find any reviews out there so i figured id try here.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> >>>>>> <http://www.ccie.net/>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________________________________
>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
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>
>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Narbik Kocharians
> >>>>>> CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> >>>>>> www.MicronicsTraining.com <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
> >>> <http://www.micronicstraining.com/> <
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.MicronicsTraining.com <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
> >>> <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor
> >>>>>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> >>>>>> Training And Remote Racks available
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Narbik Kocharians
> >>> CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> >>> www.MicronicsTraining.com <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
> >>>
> >>> Sr. Technical Instructor
> >>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> >>> Training And Remote Racks available
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Mark Jackson, CCIE #4736
> >>> Senior Network, Security and Voice Architect
> >>>
> >>> 858.705.1861
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Mark Jackson, CCIE #4736
> >>> Senior Network, Security and Voice Architect
> >>>
> >>> 858.705.1861
> >>
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