Re: Anyone ever take a Hienz Ulm class?

Wow....it actually "sounds" like a great program....I guess time will
tell, eyh??!?! ;-)

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On Oct 27, 2009, at 8:07 PM, "Dawn Tesar" <dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:

> Well if you call limited time a year from now then OK but please if
> something is working why would it go away. Also... you can sign up
> now and you do not have to use that free retake within the promo
> period. HMMMM choices....
>
> FREE Retake - YES
> FREE content updates - YES (if needed - see below)
>
> Let's focus on the technical aspects of this program instead of the
> pretty part - that is why we are all here. The content is perfectly
> aligned and targeted to the blueprint - I imagine if a company is
> publishing an update - there is something inconsistent in the
> content and it needs to be changed. Shouldn't it be right in the
> first place?
>
> Here's another point - since the program is targeted - it is
> designed to get you through your CCIE in LESS than a year. Your CCIE
> shouldn't take your life away.
>
> FYI - I will match IPE course prices... :)
>
> Thanks,
> Dawn Tesar
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Lawson [mailto:groupstudy_at_ipexpert.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:42 PM
> To: Narbik Kocharians
> Cc: Dawn Tesar; mark jackson; smorris_at_ine.com; Brad Ellis; JR
> Garcia; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Anyone ever take a Hienz Ulm class?
>
> Dawn -
>
> If a 360 student fails - they get a retake of the lab for free
> (correct me if I'm wrong - but that's a "limited time only" offer -
> and will be going away soon). However, if they don't pass - they
> obviously need additional assistance or training - so I'm wondering if
> there are free retakes for 360 students (and are there free updates to
> materials if / when the blueprint changes?.....I honestly don't know
> the answer - if so - (if 360 students get a free retake in a class)
> that's awesome! If not - the second lab attempt could be
> worthless...unless - of course - they buy another product (maybe grey
> market) to get the over that hump.... ;-). (kidding - of course!)
>
> Also - I'd have to argue that some grey market options are
> cheaper - your assumption that the 2 options (360 vs non-360) cost the
> same is not accurate.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
> Founder & President - IPexpert
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> On Oct 27, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Well said. How could one even think about grey market?
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Dawn Tesar <dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually... take it from someone who knows the Cisco 360 Program -
>>> you only
>>> have to buy a single class and a graded assessment to be a part of
>>> the Cisco
>>> Lab Safe. :)
>>>
>>> Well worth the protection. And it doesn't cost a cent more than grey
>>> market. HMMMM... what would I choose?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dawn Tesar | Director, Sales and Marketing | CCBOOTCAMP
>>> 375 N. Stephanie Street Bldg. 21 Suite 2111, Henderson, Nevada 89014
>>> Toll Free 1.877.654.2243 Intl +1.702.968.5100 Fax 702.446.0357
>>> Skype
>>> skype:ccbootcamp?call
>>> Email dawn_at_ccbootcamp.com
>>>
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>>> Channel Partner
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mark jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:25 PM
>>> To: smorris_at_ine.com
>>> Cc: Brad Ellis; JR Garcia; Cisco certification; Dawn Tesar
>>> Subject: Re: Anyone ever take a Hienz Ulm class?
>>>
>>> ...mental note made ;-)
>>>
>>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Please excuse spelling errors
>>>
>>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hehehehe... While that made me laugh out loud, I'd still at least
>>>> caution that it's not the WHOLE story.
>>>>
>>>> You have to purchase several other things to be part of the Cisco
>>>> Safe
>>>> Lab program.
>>>>
>>>> So I think you have to BUY the screwdriver set in order to get the
>>>> special case.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> mark jackson wrote:
>>>>> ...but wait there's more! Act now and receive absolutely free,
>>>>> this
>>>>> free screwdriver set.
>>>>> Sorry, could resist (hehe)
>>>>> All great people JR and well worth looking at ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> Please excuse spelling errors
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 2:42 PM, "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> JR,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you book your class with CCBOOTCAMP (my company), you will
>>>>>> get a
>>>>>> free
>>>>>> retake of not only our class, but if you fail your lab exam, with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Cisco 360 lab safe program, you will also get a free retake of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> lab
>>>>>> exam as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> Brad Ellis
>>>>>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
>>>>>> CCSI# 30482
>>>>>> CEO / President
>>>>>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
>>>>>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> JR Garcia
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:40 AM
>>>>>> To: Cisco certification
>>>>>> Subject: Anyone ever take a Hienz Ulm class?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> was looking at taking a class spring 2010 before making an
>>>>>> attempt
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> lab.
>>>>>> has any one ever attended one of his classes? the other vendors
>>>>>> offer a
>>>>>> lab/lecture type class, but i really don't want any lecture. i
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> read
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> watch videos on my own time to learn the technologies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> leaving home for 3 weeks with no distractions and just
>>>>>> configuring
>>>>>> everyday
>>>>>> with someone there to give guidance is really appealing to me.
>>>>>> seems
>>>>>> like a
>>>>>> good way to finish up studying before an attempt. i haven't been
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> find any reviews out there so i figured id try here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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