Re: AM I READING RIGHT?

Mark,

So far I have been using common materials that are available for sale
and use. I am also using the online resources provided by Cisco. I am
using anything that might be expected of any other person who has paid
for a lab exam. I am no different. Presently I am using the products
from Internetworkexpert.com and I will use others when I have
completed these if time permits. The only policy I have is to pass the
exam and win the wager.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 1:15 PM, mark jackson <markcciejackson_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> LoL. On the moral boundaires statement. Wouldn't want anyone to assume
> you are doing things against policies ;-)
>
> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Please excuse spelling errors
>
> On Oct 25, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you. I don't want anyone to misunderstand me. I am in this for
>> the bet and it is worth it to me and I will win the bet. If the bet
>> was for 30 days then I'd win the bet in 30 days. I have no pretentions
>> of what it will take me to do this nor are there any moral boundaries.
>> It is simply a bet to pass a test. Win or lose. I get paid to win and
>> I do get paid. I'm not a betting man myself if you know what I mean.
>> It's like taking candy from a baby.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Narbik Kocharians
>> <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Johnny,
>>>
>>> I am sure you are studying hard and based on what i am reading you
>>> are
>>> knowledgable as well, but the written can be done in 4 days if you
>>> wanted
>>> to, but when it comes to the lab, you must agree that it takes some
>>> serious
>>> studying.
>>>
>>> Even the written requires some serious studying, unless one goes to
>>> test
>>> preps. (I did NOT say that you did that). Reading 10 books, will
>>> take about
>>> a month or two to complete, and its NOT reading ONLY, its
>>> understanding it
>>> all so you can pass the test.
>>>
>>> BTW, i think you will do it, because you say to yourself "I have
>>> to", which
>>> is GR8.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am doing it as a bet. A friend of mine said I could not pass the
>>>> CCIE Written in less than 30 days. I took the test within a week and
>>>> won the bet. Now he said I could not take and pass the CCIE Lab
>>>> within
>>>> 6 months. Well guess what? I am going to win that bet too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> If that is the case then why waste your time on the CCIE?
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
>>>>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>> Cell: +1.586.212.6107
>>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>>> Mailto: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: armylegionmedic_at_aol.com
>>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:51:41
>>>>> To: <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: AM I READING RIGHT?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not meant to offend or be rude in any fashion or manor,
>>>>> just a
>>>>> personal opinion. I remember someone made a comment awhile back
>>>>> that the
>>>>> CCIE
>>>>> is turning into the MCSE (How it was and what it became) and
>>>>> another
>>>>> person
>>>>> responded saying no it wasnt. I have to respectfully disagree
>>>>> with the
>>>>> person
>>>>> who said it wasnt. I feel it is day by day. I believe that in a few
>>>>> years the
>>>>> CCIE will be exactly the same as an MCSE and Cisco certs will loose
>>>>> their
>>>>> stature. I base this off of what Cisco has recently done and what
>>>>> Microsoft
>>>>> tried to do to save their program. They came out with the "Masters"
>>>>> Program
>>>>> and then once you passed this you could go for the "Architect"
>>>>> Program.
>>>>> Now
>>>>> with Cisco doing this CCA, I truly and saddened to say I really
>>>>> feel
>>>>> Cisco
>>>>> will be right behind Microsoft soon. This is simply my observation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Smooth IE <smoothccie_at_googlemail.com>
>>>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 25, 2009 6:32 am
>>>>> Subject: Re: AM I READING RIGHT?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> WIthin 3 years all Cisco exams will be sub-contracted out to Vue,
>>>>> the
>>>>> format
>>>>> won't be the same just it will have Cisco vetted Vue henchmen as
>>>>> proctors.
>>>>> This will simply menm that you will be able to sit the lab in more
>>>>> locations, so yes it will be in a country near you :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Watch this speace....
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/10/25 Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I also heard from a couple people that Cisco is looking at doing
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> lab
>>>>>> exams at the VUE Professional centers (same as the CCDE). I can
>>>>>> imagine
>>>>> that
>>>>>> it could save Cisco a lot of money for maintaining their own CCIE
>>>>>> 'floors'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick Mur
>>>>>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 okt 2009, at 12:53, Iwan Hoogendoorn wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For now the Written exams are given @ Vue exam centers...
>>>>>>> And the Lab is still @ Cisco ... but I don't know what the
>>>>>>> future will
>>>>>>> bring...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
>>>>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM, <armylegionmedic_at_aol.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I got this email this morning from Cisco
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Effective October 19, 2009 Cisco CCIEB. Routing and Switching
>>>>>>>> v4.0
>>>>>>>> certification exams are now available in all VUE testing
>>>>>>>> locations
>>>>>>>> worldwide.
>>>>>>>> Both the written and lab exams have been refreshed with new
>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>> covering
>>>>>>>> MPLS and VPN networking. The written exam includes new
>>>>>>>> scenario-based
>>>>>>>> questions. The lab exam now requires hands-on troubleshooting of
>>>>>>>> preconfigured
>>>>>>>> networks, in addition to configuration. Exam duration and
>>>>>>>> pricing
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> remain
>>>>>>>> the same, with the two-hour written exam at USD $350.00 and the
>>>>>>>> eight-hour lab
>>>>>>>> at USD $1400.00
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am I reading it correctly that even the R&S Lab will be at Vue
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> well?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
>>>>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
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