Re: CCIE

Hey Narbik, Mark :)

As you know I do live in the UK, and I can say with some authority that the
market has been TOUGH.
Even for a ccie with 10 yrs of experience I can imagine it is still no
stroll in the park.
When I was job hunting, there simply werent many jobs around.
Granted Im not a ccie yet, but I included ccie in my search criteria so I
know what was going on in the market.

Bear in mind, there are more than likely quite a no of ccies in the uk still
looking for work.
Times have changed.
Hopefully though things do look to be on the up and up.

For some time now, contracts in the UK have been very thin on the ground.
Most of the jobs are for perm, hence there is a greater chance statistically
of landing a perm job than a contract.

Of course as Mark mentioned, you need to be very good at interviews too, to
beat the other ccies to the door.

2009/10/25 mark jackson <markcciejackson_at_gmail.com>

> My guess is the individual in question is only seeking full time work.
> And who wouldn't. That need I understand.
> However, in today's global and challanging economy, we (networking
> folk) need to be flexable and 'think outside' the box for employment.
> It is an ever changing arena, and enterprises with a 'bottom' line are
> looking to quickly achive ROI and not a TCO. Because of that business
> need, we as providers of networking skills need to adjust.
> I also made mention of polishing up on interview skills. I brought
> that up because I myself have seen a number of technically sound
> engineers/architects who couldn't make a presentation to save their
> live. But if you asked them to technically describe MP-BGP as it
> pertains to IPv6, their words would be like a piece of poertry or a
> Picasso painting.
> Thanks kindly.
>
>
> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Please excuse spelling errors
>
> On Oct 25, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The 60k in pounds was for full-time. Contract rates are $400-425
> > pounds per day. If you look at the site it looks like Yorkshire has a
> > large need. Interesting site.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:57 AM, mark jackson
> > <markcciejackson_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Wow. Is that full time or contract?
> >> I worked there a few years ago (Essex) and the full time market was
> >> slow then, but the contracting arena was booming.
> >>
> >> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> Please excuse spelling errors
> >>
> >> On Oct 25, 2009, at 8:51 AM, "Gary Duncanson" <
> gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Many CCIE's applying for those jobs over here Mark. The market is
> >>> flat at the moment.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Gary
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark jackson" <
> markcciejackson_at_gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>> To: "akyccie" <akyccie1_at_gmail.com>
> >>> Cc: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com>;
> >>> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 3:04 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: CCIE
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I can understand that.
> >>>> I did a simple google search using the query of UK CCIE jobs and
> >>>> found
> >>>> a lot.
> >>>> Kindly have your friend start there. Also he may want to revisit
> >>>> his
> >>>> resume for a touch up and also improve on his interview skills.
> >>>> While I am not suggesting those areas are lacking, there is always
> >>>> room for improvement.
> >>>> Thanks kindly.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>> Please excuse spelling errors
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 25, 2009, at 7:34 AM, "akyccie" <akyccie1_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> It's not a joke, I think his time is bad, pls see if you can help
> >>>>> here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regds
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: mark jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com]
> >>>>> Sent: 25 October 2009 20:01
> >>>>> To: Narbik Kocharians
> >>>>> Cc: akyccie; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>>>> Subject: Re: CCIE
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I agree, is this a joke?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>> Please excuse spelling errors
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Oct 25, 2009, at 7:27 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Your friend is a CCIE + 10 years of R&S and Voice and CAN NOT
> >>>>>> get a
> >>>>>> job in
> >>>>>> UK? is this a joke?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:12 AM, akyccie <akyccie1_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dear All
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My friend (CCIE R&S, 10+ year of experience in managing Data,
> >>>>>>> Voice
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> Security Infrastructure) is still looking for a job anywhere in
> >>>>>>> UK.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any help is highly appreciated here.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Aug 11, 2009, at 2:16 PM, "akyccie" <akyccie1_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi All
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> One of my close friend badly looking for job in UK. He has more
> >>>>>>>> than
> >>>>>>>> 10+ year of experience, CCIE in Routing and Switch with good
> >>>>>>>> experience
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cisco IPT and ASA as well. Pls unicast me if anyone is loooking
> >>>>>>>> for CCIE
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> anywhere in UK for contract or permanent position.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>
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