RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No. from Antonio Soares on 2009-10-23 (Ccielab archives 10/2009)

From: Antonio Soares <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:09:04 +0100

1178 is after 1025 but January is before July :)

CCIE #1025 - STUART BIGGS: Certification Date 19-Jul-1993
CCIE #1178 - PEDRO REY: Certification Date 21-Jan-1993

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
amsoares_at_netcabo.pt

-----Original Message-----
From: mark jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com]
Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 23:58
To: Antonio Soares
Cc: Tony Varriale; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Subject: Re: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.

I guess I am still lost as to how Pedro is before Stuart??? Stuart's # is 1025 and Pedro's is 1178. 1178 is after 1025. Unless I am
off my rocker, this isn't rocket-science.
Regardless of date, the numbers are plan to see.

Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736

Sent from my iPhone
Please excuse spelling errors

On Oct 23, 2009, at 3:19 PM, "Antonio Soares" <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt>
wrote:

> Ok, i have it. There were about 30 engineers in Europe that took the
> program and received this award:
>
> http://www.ccie18473.net/Award.JPG
>
> They received this from John Chambers in person in a dinner in
> Networks '93 (Paris, France).
>
> Then they reveived the medail:
>
> http://www.ccie18473.net/Medail.JPG
>
> These were the first CCIE's.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Tony Varriale
> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 21:47
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> Yeah...I see the June/July people. Your friend is 6 months before
> that.
> That doesn't make sense. Especially since this is the very first time
> I've ever heard of this.
>
> Let's get Pedro to verify his plaque and documentation from Cisco to
> see if they made an error. Or, produce names of people that took the
> class with him. Since you have access to that, you can focus there.
> I'm sure other people on this list will work on finding dates earlier
> than June/July.
>
> tv
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio Soares [mailto:amsoares_at_netcabo.pt]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:35 PM
> To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> More examples:
>
> Name Certification Type Certification Number Track Certification
> Status Certification Date DAVIDE BIANCHINI CCIE 1095 Routing and
> Switching Re-certified 04-Jun-1993
>
> Name Certification Type Certification Number Track Certification
> Status Certification Date RENE VAN DER HAUW CCIE 1184 Routing and
> Switching Inactive 08-Jul-1993
>
> Based only on Mark's list:
>
> http://cciehof.weebly.com/
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Tony Varriale
> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 21:11
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> Yes, those are the facts.
>
> What you have stated previously is not.
>
> As a side note, the CCIEs just previous and just after your friend
> Pedro are all in July of 1993. Think they made a mistake and put Jan
> instead of Jul?
> I can't find anyone with a date previous to July.
>
> Since you work with him, did you see his plaque? Would it be too much
> to verify the date on it? Or, any names of people that went through
> the program in Jan with him so we can verify their numbers and dates?
>
> tv
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Antonio Soares
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:35 PM
> To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> Facts:
>
> CCIE Program Announcement: Sept. 27, 1993 CCIE #1025 - STUART BIGGS:
> Certification Date 19-Jul-1993 CCIE #1178 - PEDRO REY:
> Certification Date 21-Jan-1993
>
> Read as you want.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Tony Varriale
> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 20:08
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> You can disagree all you want. There was no official CCIE program in
> January of 1993. The history of the program has been hashed out and
> is fairly well known. The lab and Terry are the beginning of the
> official program. That is recognized by Cisco.
>
> You sent a link that stated the CCIE program was official in August of
> 1993 (which I think some of us knew already). That proves my point,
> not yours.
>
> Actually, your point is that you want your friend to be a CCIE before
> there was a CCIE program. That's great for you but it doesn't make it
> true. It is also reflected in his number.
>
> Congrats on your friend being in an early phase of what (may) became
> the program but don't misrepresent what you think may have happened.
>
> They weren't the first CCIEs. They may have been some of the first in
> a program that may have been a precursor to the CCIE program.
>
> tv
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio Soares [mailto:amsoares_at_netcabo.pt]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:51 PM
> To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> I must disagree. They completed the program as the others:
>
> http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/1993/corp_092793.html
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Tony Varriale
> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 19:32
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> They aren't as they obviously did not take the lab exam in the
> official CCIE program.
>
> The people who took the official and recognized lab first are the
> first CCIEs in the world.
>
> tv
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Antonio Soares
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:33 PM
> To: 'Marc La Porte'
> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> Hello Mark,
>
> Please add my colleague Pedro Rey to your list:
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Name Certification Type Certification Number Track
> Certification Status Certification Date
> PEDRO REY CCIE 1178
> Routing and Switching Suspended 21-Jan-1993
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> You can see that Pedro is an older CCIE than STUART BIGGS, TERRANCE
> SLATTERY and many more that have a lower CCIE Number.
>
> I was talking with Pedro about this and it seems in Europe some
> Engineers were awarded with the Cisco TAC Engineer Certification or
> something similar. The CCIE word came later so these guys got their
> certification renamed CCIE. Of course, their got higher numbers but
> they got their Certification first.
>
> So these are actually the first CCIE's in the World.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>
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