Re: Anyone Going for v4 lab in october?

Meh. Just makes life a little more interesting than the day before.

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can't be replaced... We can all be replaced.

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babatunde sanda wrote:
> Scott you are right. I know intelligent engineers will definitely still
> be needed to fix the mistakes the GUI admin jacked up by going behind the
> GUI.
>
> This will definitely eliminate jobs and stiffen competition though.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris_at_ine.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:06 PM
> To: babatunde sanda
> Cc: 'Marko Milivojevic'; 'Nathan Richie'; 'Brad Ellis'; 'Farrukh Haroon';
> 'Anthony Sequeira'; 'Roy Waterman'; 'Divin Mathew John'; 'Anantha
> Subramanian Natarajan'; 'Iwan Hoogendoorn'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: Re: Anyone Going for v4 lab in october?
>
> As always, that's a personal thing to answer, and you'll likely see all
> kinds.
>
> Keep in mind that no matter what things are perceived to boil down to,
> someone, someplace will always need to be around to understand,
> influence, drive and otherwise make things happen.
>
> Did security jobs evaporate because checkpoint had a great GUI and
> people loved it? Did it get worse when Cisco followed suit and gave
> pretty pictures and nice colors with power to people who don't deserve
> it? Nope. made for great consulting dollars to fix things. :)
>
> The sky's not falling.
>
>
>
>
> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
>
> JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>
> JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>
> evil_at_ine.com
>
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>
> Outside US: 775-826-4344
>
>
> Knowledge is power.
>
> Power corrupts.
>
> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>
>
>
>
> babatunde sanda wrote:
>
>> Virtualization. This is surely making the pursue discouraging. I have
>>
> been
>
>> studying for the lab since I passed my written in May this year and found
>> after reading many forums this Saturday in-between labs that the CCIE will
>> eventually become a commodity. This new style might just be making those
>> postings true.
>>
>> I guess its time to really re-evaluate why certify amidst all the
>>
> sacrifices
>
>> that goes with it.
>>
>> I was recently in a Cisco security class and the instructor made a
>>
> statement
>
>> "It's not worth the time and expenses going for the CCIE" (this is a CCIE
>> proctor that grades the exams). I didn't take it to heart though because
>> the class it self was mostly GUI and he was also saying this is the way
>> things will eventually be too. Being a CLI engineer I was super bored but
>> still sat through anyways.
>>
>> Anthony Sequeira and team. I know you are in business to make money and I
>> definitely am using your labs right now but candidly. Is it worth
>>
> pursuing
>
>> the CCIE any more except for person conviction?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad Ellis; Farrukh Haroon; Anthony Sequeira; Roy Waterman; Divin Mathew
>> John; Anantha Subramanian Natarajan; Iwan Hoogendoorn; Cisco certification
>>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Marko Milivojevic
>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:33 PM
>> To: Nathan Richie
>> Cc: Brad Ellis; Farrukh Haroon; Anthony Sequeira; Roy Waterman; Divin
>>
> Mathew
>
>> John; Anantha Subramanian Natarajan; Iwan Hoogendoorn; Cisco certification
>> Subject: Re: Anyone Going for v4 lab in october?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 20:21, Nathan Richie <nathanr_at_boice.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So will that make me a Virtual-CCIE? :)
>>>
>>>
>> Well, virtualization is *the* buzzword these days. So, I wouldn't be
>> ashamed of it. Then again, most of CCIEs today are virtual ;-)
>>
>> --
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