RE: Anyone Going for v4 lab in october?

Scott you are right. I know intelligent engineers will definitely still
be needed to fix the mistakes the GUI admin jacked up by going behind the
GUI.

This will definitely eliminate jobs and stiffen competition though.

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Subject: Re: Anyone Going for v4 lab in october?

As always, that's a personal thing to answer, and you'll likely see all
kinds.

Keep in mind that no matter what things are perceived to boil down to,
someone, someplace will always need to be around to understand,
influence, drive and otherwise make things happen.

Did security jobs evaporate because checkpoint had a great GUI and
people loved it? Did it get worse when Cisco followed suit and gave
pretty pictures and nice colors with power to people who don't deserve
it? Nope. made for great consulting dollars to fix things. :)

The sky's not falling.

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babatunde sanda wrote:
> Virtualization. This is surely making the pursue discouraging. I have
been
> studying for the lab since I passed my written in May this year and found
> after reading many forums this Saturday in-between labs that the CCIE will
> eventually become a commodity. This new style might just be making those
> postings true.
>
> I guess its time to really re-evaluate why certify amidst all the
sacrifices
> that goes with it.
>
> I was recently in a Cisco security class and the instructor made a
statement
> "It's not worth the time and expenses going for the CCIE" (this is a CCIE
> proctor that grades the exams). I didn't take it to heart though because
> the class it self was mostly GUI and he was also saying this is the way
> things will eventually be too. Being a CLI engineer I was super bored but
> still sat through anyways.
>
> Anthony Sequeira and team. I know you are in business to make money and I
> definitely am using your labs right now but candidly. Is it worth
pursuing
> the CCIE any more except for person conviction?
>
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> Brad Ellis; Farrukh Haroon; Anthony Sequeira; Roy Waterman; Divin Mathew
> John; Anantha Subramanian Natarajan; Iwan Hoogendoorn; Cisco certification

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Marko Milivojevic
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:33 PM
> To: Nathan Richie
> Cc: Brad Ellis; Farrukh Haroon; Anthony Sequeira; Roy Waterman; Divin
Mathew
> John; Anantha Subramanian Natarajan; Iwan Hoogendoorn; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Anyone Going for v4 lab in october?
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 20:21, Nathan Richie <nathanr_at_boice.net> wrote:
>
>> So will that make me a Virtual-CCIE? :)
>>
>
> Well, virtualization is *the* buzzword these days. So, I wouldn't be
> ashamed of it. Then again, most of CCIEs today are virtual ;-)
>
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