Re: Rent my CCIE

Excelent article!
This topic has been discussed before but the information gained from this
particular thread is awesome and precise.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Scott M Vermillion <
scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com> wrote:

> And even when they aren't "deauthorized" or "decertified" entirely, it's at
> least something if they are prevented from fraudulently attaining a higher
> status, right?
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 9:02 , Ricardo Lowe wrote:
>
>
> Actually, Emmanuel Conde has an entry in his blog where Monica Cojocneanu
> at Cisco indicates that one such partner was deauthorized and two CCIEs lost
> their certification as a result of this.
>
> http://www.ccieflyer.com/2009-June-Monica-Cojocneanu.php
>
>
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> > Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:44:25 +0300
> > Subject: Re: Rent my CCIE
> > From: nrafia_at_gmail.com
> > To: smorris_at_ine.com
> > CC: ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com; scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com;
> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >
> > is there any single example of deauthorized partner, regarding this
> issue? I
> > think it will not be.
> > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
> >
> > > According to Cisco's notes, the CCIE. While it would make much more
> > > sense to punish the partner, there's a little thing called $$$
> > > involved. And amazingly the rules are not set out there to punish the
> > > real perpatrators because they still bring $$ in.
> > >
> > > Go figure.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> > > Cisco League wrote:
> > > > Swift action against whom? CCIE or the partner company?
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Scott M Vermillion <
> > > > scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Frog, please accept my sincere apologies if memory is failing me
> here,
> > > but
> > > >> wasn't it you who said he was going to open a support case with
> Cisco to
> > > get
> > > >> a definitive answer on this subject and then post back to the group?
> I
> > > know
> > > >> that someone did a handful of months back but then did not, in fact,
> > > follow
> > > >> up with any results. I attributed that to the circulation around
> that
> > > same
> > > >> time of an article where Cisco discussed stripping the digits of
> anyone
> > > >> knowingly engaging in this sort of arrangement - without regard for
> any
> > > >> border considerations.
> > > >>
> > > >> If anyone has direct knowledge of any individual or reseller
> cheating
> > > the
> > > >> system in this way, you are highly encouraged to report it to the
> same
> > > >> e-mail address that you report NDA violations to (tipline_at_cisco.com
> ).
> > > >> Cisco's legal team/brand protection group *will* take swift and
> > > decisive
> > > >> action.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Oct 18, 2009, at 4:49 , Rick Mur wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Even in your own country it's totally illegal and you will loose
> your
> > > >>
> > > >>> digits!!
> > > >>> You have to work for a partner to use your CCIE for their partner
> > > status.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Rick Mur
> > > >>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
> > > >>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> > > >>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 18 okt 2009, at 06:14, Radioactive Frog wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Cross boarder deal is not allowed anymore - in other words you can
> > > rent
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> your
> > > >>>> cert within the country where you are living but you can't rent it
> out
> > > to
> > > >>>> any other country.
> > > >>>> Of course if you have dual-citizenship you can ! <-- Exception
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Well done Cisco!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -frog
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Iwan Hoogendoorn <
> iwan_at_ipexpert.com>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> JC,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Why do you want to risk loosing your number doing this?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --
> > > >>>>> Regards,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
> > > >>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
> > > >>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> > > >>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, <jctracender_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Team:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I am looking forward to rent my ccie to a cisco partner, if you
> are
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> interested
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> please unicast me @ jctracender at gmail .com
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> BR
> > > >>>>>> /JC
> > > >>>>>> CCIE #Undisclosed (RS)
> > > >>>>>>
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