Re: Rent my CCIE

Thanks so much for this info Matthew!
My interest in asking for this information was not about renting the cert
but to get a clarity whether employer can use your credentials if it has got
offices in multiple countries.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Matthew Long <mlong_at_comms-care.com> wrote:

> The Cisco gold partner documentation spells things out quite clearly
>
> www.cisco.com/go/audit
>
> "All Cisco certified personnel requirements must be satisfied by a
> unique full-time, regular employee residing in the country where
> certification/specialization is sought and in good standing with Cisco."
>
> "The only exception to this is for CCIEs/CCDEs. Partners may employ
> full-time contracted employees (not to exceed 50 percent of the required
> number of CCIEs/CCDEs) to fulfill the CCIE/CCDE certified personnel
> requirements."
>
> "During the audit, the partner must provide evidence of full time
> employment for each individual playing a role in certifications and
> specializations."
>
>
> Note the use of "full time"
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Cisco League
> Sent: 19 October 2009 11:18
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Rent my CCIE
>
> So If I understand correctly the CCIE number should/can ONLY be used in
> your
> country of employment.
> Do we have any literature from CISCO to support this.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Scott M Vermillion <
> scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com> wrote:
>
> > Agreed. 100%.
> >
> >
> > On Oct 19, 2009, at 3:28 , Marko Milivojevic wrote:
> >
> > In fact, both, as both are diminishing the value of the
> certification.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 09:20, Scott M Vermillion
> >> <scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes.
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 19, 2009, at 3:14 , Cisco League wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Swift action against whom? CCIE or the partner company?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Scott M Vermillion <
> >>>> scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com
> >>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>> Frog, please accept my sincere apologies if memory is failing me
> >>>> here, but wasn't it you who said he was going to open a support
> case
> >>>> with Cisco to get a definitive answer on this subject and then post
> >>>> back to the group? I know that someone did a handful of months
> back
> >>>> but then did not, in fact, follow up with any results. I
> attributed
> >>>> that to the circulation around that same time of an article where
> >>>> Cisco discussed stripping the digits of anyone knowingly engaging
> in
> >>>> this sort of arrangement - without regard for any border
> >>>> considerations.
> >>>>
> >>>> If anyone has direct knowledge of any individual or reseller
> >>>> cheating the system in this way, you are highly encouraged to
> report
> >>>> it to the same e-mail address that you report NDA violations to (
> >>>> tipline_at_cisco.com
> >>>> ). Cisco's legal team/brand protection group *will* take swift and
> >>>> decisive action.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 18, 2009, at 4:49 , Rick Mur wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Even in your own country it's totally illegal and you will loose
> >>>> your digits!!
> >>>> You have to work for a partner to use your CCIE for their partner
> >>>> status.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Rick Mur
> >>>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
> >>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> >>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On 18 okt 2009, at 06:14, Radioactive Frog wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Cross boarder deal is not allowed anymore - in other words you can
> >>>> rent your
> >>>> cert within the country where you are living but you can't rent it
> >>>> out to
> >>>> any other country.
> >>>> Of course if you have dual-citizenship you can ! <-- Exception
> >>>>
> >>>> Well done Cisco!
> >>>>
> >>>> -frog
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Iwan Hoogendoorn
> >>>> <iwan_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> JC,
> >>>>
> >>>> Why do you want to risk loosing your number doing this?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
> >>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
> >>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> >>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, <jctracender_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Team:
> >>>>
> >>>> I am looking forward to rent my ccie to a cisco partner, if you are
> >>>> interested
> >>>> please unicast me @ jctracender at gmail .com
> >>>>
> >>>> BR
> >>>> /JC
> >>>> CCIE #Undisclosed (RS)
> >>>>
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