RE: Rent my CCIE

The Cisco gold partner documentation spells things out quite clearly

www.cisco.com/go/audit

"All Cisco certified personnel requirements must be satisfied by a
unique full-time, regular employee residing in the country where
certification/specialization is sought and in good standing with Cisco."

"The only exception to this is for CCIEs/CCDEs. Partners may employ
full-time contracted employees (not to exceed 50 percent of the required
number of CCIEs/CCDEs) to fulfill the CCIE/CCDE certified personnel
requirements."

"During the audit, the partner must provide evidence of full time
employment for each individual playing a role in certifications and
specializations."

Note the use of "full time"

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Cisco League
Sent: 19 October 2009 11:18
To: Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Rent my CCIE

So If I understand correctly the CCIE number should/can ONLY be used in
your
country of employment.
Do we have any literature from CISCO to support this.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Scott M Vermillion <
scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com> wrote:

> Agreed. 100%.
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 3:28 , Marko Milivojevic wrote:
>
> In fact, both, as both are diminishing the value of the
certification.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 09:20, Scott M Vermillion
>> <scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2009, at 3:14 , Cisco League wrote:
>>>
>>> Swift action against whom? CCIE or the partner company?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Scott M Vermillion <
>>>> scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> Frog, please accept my sincere apologies if memory is failing me
>>>> here, but wasn't it you who said he was going to open a support
case
>>>> with Cisco to get a definitive answer on this subject and then post
>>>> back to the group? I know that someone did a handful of months
back
>>>> but then did not, in fact, follow up with any results. I
attributed
>>>> that to the circulation around that same time of an article where
>>>> Cisco discussed stripping the digits of anyone knowingly engaging
in
>>>> this sort of arrangement - without regard for any border
>>>> considerations.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has direct knowledge of any individual or reseller
>>>> cheating the system in this way, you are highly encouraged to
report
>>>> it to the same e-mail address that you report NDA violations to (
>>>> tipline_at_cisco.com
>>>> ). Cisco's legal team/brand protection group *will* take swift and
>>>> decisive action.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 18, 2009, at 4:49 , Rick Mur wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Even in your own country it's totally illegal and you will loose
>>>> your digits!!
>>>> You have to work for a partner to use your CCIE for their partner
>>>> status.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rick Mur
>>>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>>>
>>>> On 18 okt 2009, at 06:14, Radioactive Frog wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Cross boarder deal is not allowed anymore - in other words you can
>>>> rent your
>>>> cert within the country where you are living but you can't rent it
>>>> out to
>>>> any other country.
>>>> Of course if you have dual-citizenship you can ! <-- Exception
>>>>
>>>> Well done Cisco!
>>>>
>>>> -frog
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Iwan Hoogendoorn
>>>> <iwan_at_ipexpert.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> JC,
>>>>
>>>> Why do you want to risk loosing your number doing this?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Iwan Hoogendoorn
>>>> CCIE #13084 (R&S / Security / SP)
>>>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, <jctracender_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Team:
>>>>
>>>> I am looking forward to rent my ccie to a cisco partner, if you are
>>>> interested
>>>> please unicast me @ jctracender at gmail .com
>>>>
>>>> BR
>>>> /JC
>>>> CCIE #Undisclosed (RS)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>>>>
>>>>
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