Re: CCIE written expiry

Alright, let's get something straight then. All this kind of animosity
comes out of the fact that (in my opinion) somebody thinks somebody else is
taking a shot at them. I perceived you taking a shot at me, and chances are
you felt the same about me from the way things have progressed and frankly
gotten out of hand.
Maybe you weren't taking a shot at me, but that's how it was perceived.
 People tend to be defensive when they perceive they are being attacked by
others for no reason. I do believe you or anybody else with any self respect
would probably react similarly.

So look -- I'm willing to bury the hatchet on this if you were honestly not
looking to take a shot at me intentionally. Also, regarding your joke
obviously subtleties are not communicated in text the way they are in
person. If you were sitting across from me I'm sure I would have picked up
on your tone and your demeanor to understand you were joking. It's hard to
do that when you just say something flat out in an email.

Anybody out there reading this can attest to the fact that I've never been
involved in or interested in political discussion on GS. I challenge you to
find a thread, because there aren't any. I'm here because I love teaching
and I love technology, not because I want to tell anybody I think I'm better
than somebody else, or the material I work on is better than anybody else's.

With that being said, why don't we get back to the technology and stop
throwing stones at each other since it serves no useful purpose.

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Joe,
>
> I was kidding about NOT hiring you, i have heard GR8 stuff about your
> teaching style. It was just a joke mate. I apologies if you took it the
> wrong way.
>
> But jokes aside, i would never hire Scott (JK).
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
>
>> You got that much right I'd never consider it : )
>> Regards,
>>
>> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
>> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:01:39
>> To: Ryan West<rwest_at_zyedge.com>
>> Cc: Marko Milivojevic<markom_at_markom.info>; Scott Morris<smorris_at_ine.com>;
>> Dale Shaw<dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com<
>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Subject: Re: CCIE written expiry
>>
>> I guess i will never hire you or Scott........
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Who are you talking to?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Ryan West <rwest_at_zyedge.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Maybe you should concentrate on your next Marketing blast, rather than
>> >> flaming the helpful non-combative members of this list. I hear you use
>> >> members of this list to promote your product for reduced rates, put a
>> cork
>> >> in it.
>> >>
>> >> -ryan
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of
>> >> Narbik Kocharians
>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:17 PM
>> >> To: Marko Milivojevic
>> >> Cc: Scott Morris; Dale Shaw; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> >> Subject: Re: CCIE written expiry
>> >>
>> >> Initially i thought that it was a typo by the person that asked the
>> >> question, but later i was just adding to what Scott said. But my
>> honest
>> >> opinion is that if you are teaching this cert, you must know some of
>> the
>> >> basic rules.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_markom.info
>> >> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 00:20, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
>> >> > > Naaahhh... B They're entirely different (your PS question). B
>> Because
>> >> > > there I would anticipate being cursed out in languages I didn't
>> >> > > understand. B I haven't really seen that happen here. B ;)
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, I'm certain that could be arranged - in a much wider variety
>> >> > than only Norse ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> > --
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>> >> > CCIE #18427 (SP)
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