Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring

If each tshoot section is independent ... how many routers do us CCIE
wannabees need?

True, we will not be able to work 10 tshoot tickets at the same time ...
but, this might also be a good thing while we are learning. 3 to 4 tshoot
tickets at once is fine with me ...

Agreed that NOT having dynamips is probably not an option any more ... you
kind of have to have it now IMO. I have real equipment, but can see that I
will most likely have to invest the time to learn and get Dynamips up ...

If no dynamips, then I can probably work 1 to 3 tickets at a time ... which
again might not be that bad ;-)

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Antonio Soares <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt>wrote:

> It would be interesting to know how vendors will address this. Since IOU
> will not be available for 360 and non-360 vendors, i would
> say dynamips will be more important than ever. But it won't be easy to
> design stable topologies with up to 20-30 routers as Maurilio
> said.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Larry Hadrava
> Sent: quinta-feira, 15 de Outubro de 2009 23:24
> To: 'Johnny B CCIE'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> Yes. This was stated in the presentation. If you missed it let Brad know -
> he can shoot you the link.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Larry Hadrava Larryh_at_INE.com
> CCIE #12203 (R&S)
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Johnny B CCIE
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:46 PM
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
>
> You sure?
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> > Not sure about access to iou and 360. Rick?
> >
> >
> >
> > No, the catalyst code will not run on iou.
> >
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Brad Ellis
> >
> > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> >
> > CCSI# 30482
> >
> > CEO / President
> >
> > CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> >
> > Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > From: jose manzano [mailto:josermanzano_at_gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:47 AM
> > To: Brad Ellis
> > Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >
> >
> >
> > It would be nice to have access to the IOU Software, but Dynamips /
> > Dynagen will do everything i need on the router side for now as I can
> > run 12.4 code on it.
> >
> > Do students in the Cisco 360 Prrogram get access to the IOU
> > software ?
> >
> > Also, will the IOU software run Catalyst Code as well ?
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > That's pretty much about right. I think some older versions of IOU
> > were leaked (a student in one of our classes last year mentioned about
> > having an older flavor), but I havenb t seen any newer versions.
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> > Brad Ellis
> > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> > CCSI# 30482
> > CEO / President
> > CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> > Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
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> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: markom_at_gmail.com [mailto:markom_at_gmail.com] On Behalf Of Marko
> > Milivojevic
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:48 AM
> > To: Antonio Soares
> > Cc: Brad Ellis; Charles.Henson_at_regions.com; Justin Mitchell;
> > ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Nathan Richie; Nadeem Rafi
> > Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >
> > I suppose that the only way is to get into Advanced Services...
> >
> > (any Cisco recruiters here? :-) )
> >
> > --
> > Marko
> > CCIE #18427 (SP)
> > My network blog: http://cisco.markom.info/
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:42, Antonio Soares <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt>
> > wrote:
> >> How can we get access to IOU ? The idea of having some many devices
> >> on
> > an average laptop is fantastic. I heard somewhere that IOU
> >> only runs special IOS images. Is this true ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> >> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of Brad Ellis
> >> Sent: quarta-feira, 7 de Outubro de 2009 22:42
> >> To: Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com; Justin Mitchell
> >> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Nathan Richie; Nadeem Rafi
> >> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>
> >> IOU is much more stable and more efficient versus dynamips and GNS3.
> > On a single server (dual-core processor, 4gb memory, etc,
> >> nothing super fancy), IOU can handle over 100+ devices and is still
> > very stable (according to Maurilio). While the devices will be
> >> running on IOU, the lab candidate will not have access to the IOU
> > server itself, just the network devices running in IOU - so it
> >> won't really make a difference to the lab candidate - routers as
> > usual!
> >>
> >> There's a lot more virtualization coming down the pipe from Cisco w/
> > regards to the CCIE lab. It will be interesting to watch the
> >> changes over the next few years.
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> Brad Ellis
> >> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> >> CCSI# 30482
> >> CEO / President
> >> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> >> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> >> International: +1-702-968-5100
> >> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
> >> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> >> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> >> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com [mailto:Charles.Henson_at_Regions.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:31 PM
> >> To: Justin Mitchell
> >> Cc: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; Nathan Richie;
> > nobody_at_groupstudy.com; Nadeem Rafi
> >> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>
> >> I wasn't very clear. I am very familiar with dynamips/GNS3. I was
> >> just
> > curious how close IOU would look/feel to the GNS3 that many
> >> of us are used to. More than likely, we'll just get terminal windows
> > and won't know the difference........until it crashes.... :)
> >>
> >> Charles Henson
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> B From: B B B Justin Mitchell <jgmitchell_at_gmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> B To: B B B B Charles.Henson_at_regions.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> B Cc: B B B B Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>,
> > ccielab_at_groupstudy.com,
> >> Nathan Richie <nathanr_at_boice.net>, nobody_at_groupstudy.com, B B B B
> >> B B B Nadeem Rafi <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> B Date: B B B 10/07/2009 03:59 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> B Subject: B B Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No, GNS3 is a whole separate project used Dynamips and Dynagen. GNS3
> > is actually just a GUI for Dynamips/Dynagen to make it easier
> >> to use.
> >> Dynamips is a hardware emulator.
> >>
> >> Justin G. Mitchell
> >> e: jgmitchell_at_gmail.com | skype: justin.g.mitchell
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM, B <Charles.Henson_at_regions.com> wrote:
> >>> Just finished watching. Thanks for the link Brad.
> >>>
> >>> Does IOU = GNS3?
> >>>
> >>> Charles Henson
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> B From: B B B "Brad Ellis" <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
> >>>
> >>> B To: B B B B "Nadeem Rafi" <nrafia_at_gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> B Cc: B B B B "Nathan Richie" <nathanr_at_boice.net>,
> >> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >>>
> >>> B Date: B B B 10/07/2009 12:21 PM
> >>>
> >>> B Subject: B B RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Right here:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/lsr.php?AT=pb&SP=EC&rID=405203
> > 77
> >>> &rKey=4a695ccb75726703
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Brad Ellis
> >>>
> >>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> >>>
> >>> CCSI# 30482
> >>>
> >>> CEO / President
> >>>
> >>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> >>>
> >>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >>>
> >>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> >>>
> >>> International: +1-702-968-5100
> >>>
> >>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
> >>>
> >>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> >>>
> >>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> >>>
> >>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
> >>> <http://www.ccbootcamp.com/>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Nadeem Rafi [mailto:nrafia_at_gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:22 AM
> >>> To: Brad Ellis
> >>> Cc: Nathan Richie; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>> Subject: Re: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> i have missed the webnar.. how to get recording?
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Brad Ellis <brad_at_ccbootcamp.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Nathan.
> >>>
> >>> As you probably saw in the webinar yesterday, the new exam will be
> >>> comprised of three different separate sections:
> >>>
> >>> Core Knowledge (OEQ)
> >>> Troubleshooting
> >>> Configuration
> >>>
> >>> You must pass EACH individual section in order to pass the lab exam.
> >> In
> >>> other words, if you fail a single section, then you fail the exam.
> > One
> >>> of the most interesting items that was discussed during the event
> >>> yesterday is the direction Cisco is heading with using virtual
> >>> equipment. The ENTIRE troubleshooting portion of the new lab exam
> > will
> >>> be done on Cisco IOU (software emulator). This gives the lab exam
> > team
> >>> the ability to conjure up a larger network very easily. Fun stuff!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>> Brad Ellis
> >>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> >>> CCSI# 30482
> >>> CEO / President
> >>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> >>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> >>> International: +1-702-968-5100
> >>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
> >>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> >>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> >>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Nathan Richie [mailto:nathanr_at_boice.net]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:49 PM
> >>> To: Brad Ellis; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>>
> >>> Cool, thanks Brad
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Brad Ellis [mailto:brad_at_ccbootcamp.com]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:35 PM
> >>> To: Nathan Richie; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>> Subject: RE: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>>
> >>> Nathan,
> >>>
> >>> Hi! I had dinner with Maurilio tonight (and Russ White). Maurilio
> >>> did confirm that he is going to discuss the details of the score
> >>> requirements in the webinar next week. Should be interesting to hear
> >>> people's feedback... :)
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>> Brad Ellis
> >>> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> >>> CCSI# 30482
> >>> CEO / President
> >>> CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Solutions Partner (CLSP)
> >>> Email: brad_at_ccbootcamp.com
> >>> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> >>> International: +1-702-968-5100
> >>> Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call
> >>> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> >>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> >>> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com CCIE Webinar:
> >>> http://www.ccbootcamp.com/cciewebex.html
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >> Of
> >>> Nathan Richie
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:51 AM
> >>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>> Subject: OT - Version 4 Scoring
> >>>
> >>> Does anybody know if any more has been said about the scoring of the
> >>> version 4 lab? B I have heard and read that you will need 80 points,
> >>> but I was wondering if Cisco has or if anybody thinks Cisco will
> >>> provide any more detail than that.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Nathan Richie
> >>>
> >>>
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