Re: Passed

mate,

It was just a thought, i don't think that training is the ONLy way to make a
living in this industry, you could always do consulting.

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Scott M Vermillion <
scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com> wrote:

> LOL, I guess it depends on your definition of "level." If by that you
> meant the *number* of CCIEs actively certified, I guess you'd just have to
> count the number of employed trainers out there - most of the rest of us
> would have no choice but to drop it like a hot rock. Let's be honest
> Narbik, if this sort of policy were to come about, how many people would
> take enough interest for you guys to continue earning a living?
>
> But I certainly can't argue that the number wouldn't hold infinitely more
> respect were this to be the recert requirement. Personally, I think Cisco
> is doing a pretty good job of seeking a more realistic middle ground but of
> course there's always room for improvement...
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2009, at 10:09 , Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>
> Scott,
>>
>> Could you imagine the level of CCIEs if they did do that?
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Scott M Vermillion <
>> scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com> wrote:
>>
>> I didn't start with the written until v3.0 was just days old (summer
>>> 2007).
>>> I had always been told that the written was just a filter to keep those
>>> with absolutely zero chance of passing the lab from needlessly occupying
>>> seats - a real push-over of an exam. I have no idea what any of the v1.x
>>> or
>>> v2.x tests were like, but I have always been challenged by v3.x and was
>>> likewise challenged by the v4.0 beta, which I doubt I passed (had to rush
>>> through too much towards the end to give serious thought to a fairly
>>> significant swath of the exam). I know when I am eligible to recertify
>>> in
>>> early 2010 I will not take preparations lightly.
>>>
>>> I doubt we'll ever see the lab as a requirement for recert (way too
>>> expensive for those of us who don't live near a lab location and just way
>>> too disruptive to life in general), but I wouldn't be surprised to see
>>> more
>>> config and troubleshooting by way of simulator (or even remote access) at
>>> some point down the line. Or perhaps separate exams for lab
>>> qualification
>>> and recertification. Who knows? Cisco has certainly shown that they
>>> don't
>>> plan to just sit back on their laurels and let this thing sink into
>>> irrelevance...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2009, at 3:18 , Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>>>
>>> I guess i am a CCIE for another 2 years, that written test was pretty
>>>
>>>> tough.
>>>>
>>>> I hope Cisco changes the rules from written to the actual lab for
>>>> recert,
>>>> i
>>>> much rather take the lab than the written.
>>>>
>>>> I am a horrible written test taker......
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