Re: OT- Reaching 40, choosing path

Well said Darby, Listen mate this is life, welcome .....

Having CCIE makes you *MORE* marketable and very seldom you find them out of
job.......but nothing in this life is guaranteed.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Salah,
>
> Don't feel bad my friend. Many who are older and even have some years
> experience in some parts of the world report no jobs either for a CCIE.
>
> Now I'm going to assume that means no jobs that pay what these guys expect
> to be earning, however some have been on the bench for a while. So it is
> hard to say.
>
> If you join linkedin and know how to network, there are lots of job
> listed. I checked today for Cisco for example and there were over 9 pages
> of job 10-12 a page all over the world offered by third parties, but only a
> couple for CCIEs.
>
> Other recruiters are dying to meet CCIE's .
>
> Then you have various job boards.
>
> I guess it depends on the country too. That's important.
>
> I knew lots of companies in my career who have no idea what a CCIE is
> anyway. And if they did they did not feel the need to have one on staff.
>
> Look at the bright side there is always consulting.
>
> We have list members that do quite well or even twice to thrice as well as
> most CCIE's in the corp space.
>
> It really depends.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Salah ElShekeil <
> salah.elshekeil_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Guys I'm barely 23 and I got my number 4 months back, CCIE is not mean
>> that
>> u will be happy,
>>
>> you can be without this cert and u have a neat job :), I'm a CCIE without
>> a
>> job and I spent around one year full time studying like the hell and now
>> I'm
>> not getting any job :( so don't think that CCIE is the end of this world
>> :D
>>
>>
>> Just my 2 cents :D
>>
>> SE
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Mohamed El Henawy <m.henawy_at_link.net
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > the only thing that will happen in 2012 is that Cisco is going to
>> announce
>> > another blueprint and open ended going to be 2 questions only... lol
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexei Monastyrnyi" <
>> > alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
>> > To: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> > Cc: "kalpesh acharya" <angel.cash_at_gmail.com>; "ospfv2" <
>> ospfv2_at_gmail.com>;
>> > "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:12 AM
>> > Subject: Re: OT- Reaching 40, choosing path
>> >
>> >
>> > how about 2012 prophecy? :-) I know I should not have touched that can
>> >> of worms. :-)
>> >>
>> >> A.
>> >>
>> >> Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hey i am 50 and i may even go for the forth one. If someone told me
>> that
>> >>> i
>> >>> was to die in 6 months or two years, yes.... i would not care about
>> CCIE,
>> >>> but since we don't know that, we should never let age stop us.
>> >>> A year or so from now, you will be saying to yourself....hey ....had i
>> >>> done
>> >>> it....i would have been finished.
>> >>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:33 AM, kalpesh acharya <angel.cash_at_gmail.com
>> >>> >wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> hey GS,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> this is one of the best Non-technical group discussion. i am not in
>> my
>> >>>> 40s,
>> >>>> but yeah, i agree that Age should not be the factor, i am 29, and i m
>> >>>> quite
>> >>>> a late in my career, i failed often in my academics, but never quit,
>> i
>> >>>> finally nailed it, i m givin my frist attempt on 10th, i dont have a
>> >>>> group
>> >>>> to study along wid me, im preparin solo, so sometimes i get tired n
>> >>>> bored
>> >>>> n
>> >>>> scared, but as said U R NOT BRAVE IF UR NOT SCARED, so here i am,
>> goin
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> finish my journey n hit the spot on 10th, im not worried abt the
>> result
>> >>>> but
>> >>>> my performance on the lab day, n ya, i always prefer to be a hardcore
>> >>>> CCIE
>> >>>> rather being just a certified one, as Scott says, STUDY HARD N BE
>> EVIL,
>> >>>> ur
>> >>>> skills n experience is the most important, Certification is just a
>> >>>> paper,
>> >>>> if
>> >>>> u fail first time doesnt prove that ur not good at it, anyways, keep
>> it
>> >>>> up
>> >>>> all of u guys, n its not about how u look but how u feel inside...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> cheers,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Kalpesh
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:11 AM, ospfv2 <ospfv2_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thank you so much gentlemen for your feedback
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> i think i will give it twice, pass or not , i have decide to quit my
>> IT
>> >>>>> job.
>> >>>>> and put my energy on other field.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Wish You All The Best
>> >>>>>
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