Re: OT- Reaching 40, choosing path

Except for taxes and death. ;)

Narbik Kocharians wrote:
> Well said Darby, Listen mate this is life, welcome .....
>
> Having CCIE makes you *MORE* marketable and very seldom you find them out of
> job.......but nothing in this life is guaranteed.
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>> Salah,
>>
>> Don't feel bad my friend. Many who are older and even have some years
>> experience in some parts of the world report no jobs either for a CCIE.
>>
>> Now I'm going to assume that means no jobs that pay what these guys expect
>> to be earning, however some have been on the bench for a while. So it is
>> hard to say.
>>
>> If you join linkedin and know how to network, there are lots of job
>> listed. I checked today for Cisco for example and there were over 9 pages
>> of job 10-12 a page all over the world offered by third parties, but only a
>> couple for CCIEs.
>>
>> Other recruiters are dying to meet CCIE's .
>>
>> Then you have various job boards.
>>
>> I guess it depends on the country too. That's important.
>>
>> I knew lots of companies in my career who have no idea what a CCIE is
>> anyway. And if they did they did not feel the need to have one on staff.
>>
>> Look at the bright side there is always consulting.
>>
>> We have list members that do quite well or even twice to thrice as well as
>> most CCIE's in the corp space.
>>
>> It really depends.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Salah ElShekeil <
>> salah.elshekeil_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Guys I'm barely 23 and I got my number 4 months back, CCIE is not mean
>>> that
>>> u will be happy,
>>>
>>> you can be without this cert and u have a neat job :), I'm a CCIE without
>>> a
>>> job and I spent around one year full time studying like the hell and now
>>> I'm
>>> not getting any job :( so don't think that CCIE is the end of this world
>>> :D
>>>
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents :D
>>>
>>> SE
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Mohamed El Henawy <m.henawy_at_link.net
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> the only thing that will happen in 2012 is that Cisco is going to
>>>>
>>> announce
>>>
>>>> another blueprint and open ended going to be 2 questions only... lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexei Monastyrnyi" <
>>>> alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: "kalpesh acharya" <angel.cash_at_gmail.com>; "ospfv2" <
>>>>
>>> ospfv2_at_gmail.com>;
>>>
>>>> "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:12 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: OT- Reaching 40, choosing path
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> how about 2012 prophecy? :-) I know I should not have touched that can
>>>>
>>>>> of worms. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> A.
>>>>>
>>>>> Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey i am 50 and i may even go for the forth one. If someone told me
>>>>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> was to die in 6 months or two years, yes.... i would not care about
>>>>>>
>>> CCIE,
>>>
>>>>>> but since we don't know that, we should never let age stop us.
>>>>>> A year or so from now, you will be saying to yourself....hey ....had i
>>>>>> done
>>>>>> it....i would have been finished.
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:33 AM, kalpesh acharya <angel.cash_at_gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> hey GS,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this is one of the best Non-technical group discussion. i am not in
>>>>>>>
>>> my
>>>
>>>>>>> 40s,
>>>>>>> but yeah, i agree that Age should not be the factor, i am 29, and i m
>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>> a late in my career, i failed often in my academics, but never quit,
>>>>>>>
>>> i
>>>
>>>>>>> finally nailed it, i m givin my frist attempt on 10th, i dont have a
>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>> to study along wid me, im preparin solo, so sometimes i get tired n
>>>>>>> bored
>>>>>>> n
>>>>>>> scared, but as said U R NOT BRAVE IF UR NOT SCARED, so here i am,
>>>>>>>
>>> goin
>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> finish my journey n hit the spot on 10th, im not worried abt the
>>>>>>>
>>> result
>>>
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> my performance on the lab day, n ya, i always prefer to be a hardcore
>>>>>>> CCIE
>>>>>>> rather being just a certified one, as Scott says, STUDY HARD N BE
>>>>>>>
>>> EVIL,
>>>
>>>>>>> ur
>>>>>>> skills n experience is the most important, Certification is just a
>>>>>>> paper,
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> u fail first time doesnt prove that ur not good at it, anyways, keep
>>>>>>>
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> all of u guys, n its not about how u look but how u feel inside...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kalpesh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:11 AM, ospfv2 <ospfv2_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you so much gentlemen for your feedback
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i think i will give it twice, pass or not , i have decide to quit my
>>>>>>>>
>>> IT
>>>
>>>>>>>> job.
>>>>>>>> and put my energy on other field.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wish You All The Best
>>>>>>>>
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