Re: R&S 4.0 blueprint

Remember, we have been told it is "10 to 15 tickets" which to me is quite a
gap -- I mean ... thats like what 50% more? An extra 3 or 5 problems could
definitely be an issue. Hopefully, this will be clarified.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Now the next question is what kinds of issues can be divided into 10
> tickets in about 2 horus?
>
> Maybe that's where the MPLS will reside?
>
> I'd actually consider this most likely for the MPLS addition. It would
> give candidates a chance to think abotu MPLS, they'd have to understand the
> technology to repair/fix it and of course troubleshoot in the first place.
>
> In any event I'd expect MPLS to be light at least initially.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Narbik is counting:
>>
>> 1. 2 Hours Troublshooting
>> 2. 5.5 Hours Configuration of the New Lab
>>
>> 7.5 Hours Total. +/- 30 Minutes for OEQ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Narbik,
>>>
>>> Can you expand on that idea? I thought with v4.0 we were going to see:
>>>
>>> 1) 30 minutes OEQ
>>> 2) 2 hours troubleshooting
>>> 3) 5.5 hours configuration
>>>
>>> At least that is what I got from the Ask The Expert:
>>>
>>> http://forum.cisco.com/eforum/servlet/NetProf?page=netprof&forum=Expert%20Archive&topic=Career%20Certifications&topicID=.ee7f99b&fromOutline=&CommCmd=MB%3Fcmd%3Ddisplay_location%26location%3D.2cd32078/30
>>>
>>> So what do you mean, 7 hours?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Darby,
>>>>
>>>> I think once you count the troubleshooting section and the configuration
>>>> section you end up with 7 hours, i think and i hope that Cisco makes
>>>> it challenging enough so the newly minted CCIEs will be knowledgeable and
>>>> what you would expect from a CCIE.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I only counted 5.5 hours of configuration and testing.
>>>>>
>>>>> This amounts to a little more than a CCIE Accessor.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I'm sure it will be the more difficult parts of any recent 3-5
>>>>> years lab worth off complexity.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd expect the easier and more routine topics will be
>>>>> pre-coninfigured. Leaving the candidate to sort out the more difficult or
>>>>> time consuming topics.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is, the lower order topics may be considered mastery by virtue of
>>>>> completing the troubleshooting section and whatever is left of the OEQ.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Marko Milivojevic <
>>>>> markom_at_markom.info> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 22:52, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > I agree with Iwan, you should know:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > - LDP
>>>>>> > - Basic MPLS
>>>>>> > - RSVP - (I kinda find it hard to believe that this would be in the
>>>>>> exam,
>>>>>> > like Scott mentioned, TE is NOT part of this exam,
>>>>>> > B B B B B B B they don't even hit it hard in the SP track).
>>>>>> > - L3 VPN's - Static routes, RIPv2, Eigrp, OSPF, BGP
>>>>>> > - VRF & VRF Lite
>>>>>> > - Complex VPNs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would actually be surprised to see any complex VPN's to begin with.
>>>>>> With 6 hours and all the other fun stuff there, this *could* be just a
>>>>>> little bit too much. However, we shouldn't forget the troubleshooting
>>>>>> section. That opens many new possibilities for introducing different
>>>>>> stuff to troubleshoot. For example, we may not have a complex
>>>>>> redistribution scenario to configure, but we may have a monster to
>>>>>> troubleshoot...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just thinking out loud here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> CCIE #18427 (SP)
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>
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