Re: R&S 4.0 blueprint

Oh. OK, cool. Thanks for the clarification Darby.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Narbik is counting:
>
> 1. 2 Hours Troublshooting
> 2. 5.5 Hours Configuration of the New Lab
>
> 7.5 Hours Total. +/- 30 Minutes for OEQ
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Joe Astorino <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
>
>> Hey Narbik,
>>
>> Can you expand on that idea? I thought with v4.0 we were going to see:
>>
>> 1) 30 minutes OEQ
>> 2) 2 hours troubleshooting
>> 3) 5.5 hours configuration
>>
>> At least that is what I got from the Ask The Expert:
>>
>> http://forum.cisco.com/eforum/servlet/NetProf?page=netprof&forum=Expert%20Archive&topic=Career%20Certifications&topicID=.ee7f99b&fromOutline=&CommCmd=MB%3Fcmd%3Ddisplay_location%26location%3D.2cd32078/30
>>
>> So what do you mean, 7 hours?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Darby,
>>>
>>> I think once you count the troubleshooting section and the configuration
>>> section you end up with 7 hours, i think and i hope that Cisco makes
>>> it challenging enough so the newly minted CCIEs will be knowledgeable and
>>> what you would expect from a CCIE.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I only counted 5.5 hours of configuration and testing.
>>>>
>>>> This amounts to a little more than a CCIE Accessor.
>>>>
>>>> However, I'm sure it will be the more difficult parts of any recent 3-5
>>>> years lab worth off complexity.
>>>>
>>>> I'd expect the easier and more routine topics will be pre-coninfigured.
>>>> Leaving the candidate to sort out the more difficult or time consuming
>>>> topics.
>>>>
>>>> That is, the lower order topics may be considered mastery by virtue of
>>>> completing the troubleshooting section and whatever is left of the OEQ.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_markom.info
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 22:52, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > I agree with Iwan, you should know:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > - LDP
>>>>> > - Basic MPLS
>>>>> > - RSVP - (I kinda find it hard to believe that this would be in the
>>>>> exam,
>>>>> > like Scott mentioned, TE is NOT part of this exam,
>>>>> > B B B B B B B they don't even hit it hard in the SP track).
>>>>> > - L3 VPN's - Static routes, RIPv2, Eigrp, OSPF, BGP
>>>>> > - VRF & VRF Lite
>>>>> > - Complex VPNs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would actually be surprised to see any complex VPN's to begin with.
>>>>> With 6 hours and all the other fun stuff there, this *could* be just a
>>>>> little bit too much. However, we shouldn't forget the troubleshooting
>>>>> section. That opens many new possibilities for introducing different
>>>>> stuff to troubleshoot. For example, we may not have a complex
>>>>> redistribution scenario to configure, but we may have a monster to
>>>>> troubleshoot...
>>>>>
>>>>> Just thinking out loud here.
>>>>>
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