Re: OT: Why do about 4000+ CCIEs of 25,000 CCIE's...

Hey Darby,

I think its that once you have it it will open doors and add you have
the option ti gain more expierience ...
Once that expierience is build and you made name and worked for a few
large enterprice you dont really need the CCIE knowledge anymore ...
to earn some money.
Also people have different reasons for getting the number.
Some just want it
Others hopes it will open doors
Again Others just see it as a challenge and want to know ig they are
really capable of acchieving the highest level of cert...

Once you have it and your a bit older and have all the expierience in
the world ... you don't need the certification anymore in my point of
view ... then its just for fun to have it.

But I like to keep it untill I close my eyes and go to the other side
so I can show it to Michael J ;-)

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On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Darby Weaver<darby.weaver_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone care to speculate why 4000+ CCIE's don't think simply taking the CCIE
> Written again is worth all the effort they spent to get the CCIE in the
> first place and maintain it?
>
> I have to ask the question?
>
> A few CCIE's are asking me now and and a lot of CCIE's have asked me overall
> over the last few years - "How to get employed after attaining the CCIE?"
>
> Others seem to have an issue getting that raise or advancement.
>
> Is the ROI not there for about 1 in 6 CCIE's?
>
> Now while most of us say we seek the cert for personal reasons.... and this
> may be true since 5 in 6 are staying certified...
>
> But consider this:
>
> About 6,000 CCIE's and maybe even 9,000 or so are newly certified - meaning
> thay have yet to have to recertify or may be in Suspended Mode for not
> certifying in time and have a year to catch up...
>
> so...
>
> Now we have about 4000 or 16000 CCIE's who choose to let their CCIE wither
> an die....
>
> I have to ask why those 25% think the CCIE not worth the effort of
> maintaining after such an effort?
>
> Now before we start...  I guess a lot of people will chime in anonymously...
>
>
> That's great we are on the Internet.
>
> But if a fomer CCIE (verifiable) were to chime in on why he/she did not
> think the cert worth maintaining...  that would be interesting.
>
>
> Can it be that many are just not finding jobs with the CCIE or just plainly
> have not seen the value...
>
> It costs most people at least $10-30k to achieve and 1-3+ years to attain...
>
> Not worth spending 3-6 months to prep for the CCIE Written and pay the
> $3xx.00 to maintain the certification?
>
> Why not?
>
> Did all of them just burnout, retire, or just die?
>
> Seems like a high number for all three of those reasons combined.
>
>
> Of course everyone has their own reasons....
>
>
> Just curious...
>
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