Re: OT: Why do about 4000+ CCIEs of 25,000 CCIE's...

Another example, my ex-boss whose CCIE#3XXX already expired his CCIE status
4~ 5 years back. He didn't need to have the CCIE# active as he is now
running his own consulting business which earning much much more than
working in Cisco Gold Partner as CCIE previously.

I believe there are many similar cases out there as well. Life need to goes
on. And at every stages we have different needs and we do evolve :)

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Good point Anthony and very wisely said.
>
> I'm engaged in a dialogue about this and maybe it will make it to the
> public
> soon wnough.
>
> I think we have a few examples of this kind of thing from at least a few
> former CCIE's.
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I think it would be fairly interesting to hear from former CCIEs that let
> > their cert expire. I heard that Jeff Doyle did (Cisco Press).
> >
> > Unfortunately, I think we have about a 0% chance of finding them reading
> > this post on GS.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> >
> > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
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> > On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Darby Weaver wrote:
> >
> > Anyone care to speculate why 4000+ CCIE's don't think simply taking the
> >> CCIE
> >> Written again is worth all the effort they spent to get the CCIE in the
> >> first place and maintain it?
> >>
> >> I have to ask the question?
> >>
> >> A few CCIE's are asking me now and and a lot of CCIE's have asked me
> >> overall
> >> over the last few years - "How to get employed after attaining the
> CCIE?"
> >>
> >> Others seem to have an issue getting that raise or advancement.
> >>
> >> Is the ROI not there for about 1 in 6 CCIE's?
> >>
> >> Now while most of us say we seek the cert for personal reasons.... and
> >> this
> >> may be true since 5 in 6 are staying certified...
> >>
> >> But consider this:
> >>
> >> About 6,000 CCIE's and maybe even 9,000 or so are newly certified -
> >> meaning
> >> thay have yet to have to recertify or may be in Suspended Mode for not
> >> certifying in time and have a year to catch up...
> >>
> >> so...
> >>
> >> Now we have about 4000 or 16000 CCIE's who choose to let their CCIE
> wither
> >> an die....
> >>
> >> I have to ask why those 25% think the CCIE not worth the effort of
> >> maintaining after such an effort?
> >>
> >> Now before we start... I guess a lot of people will chime in
> >> anonymously...
> >>
> >>
> >> That's great we are on the Internet.
> >>
> >> But if a fomer CCIE (verifiable) were to chime in on why he/she did not
> >> think the cert worth maintaining... that would be interesting.
> >>
> >>
> >> Can it be that many are just not finding jobs with the CCIE or just
> >> plainly
> >> have not seen the value...
> >>
> >> It costs most people at least $10-30k to achieve and 1-3+ years to
> >> attain...
> >>
> >> Not worth spending 3-6 months to prep for the CCIE Written and pay the
> >> $3xx.00 to maintain the certification?
> >>
> >> Why not?
> >>
> >> Did all of them just burnout, retire, or just die?
> >>
> >> Seems like a high number for all three of those reasons combined.
> >>
> >>
> >> Of course everyone has their own reasons....
> >>
> >>
> >> Just curious...
> >>
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> >> Network Engineer
> >>
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> >>
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