Re: CCIE Jobs

It depends on what you want to do. Obviously, having six CCIE's and
nothing else won't help you in the sales, customer service or executive
management circles. However, an MBA isn't exactly a ticket to success.
There are way more MBA's than CCIE. All things considered I think the
CCIE is the best way to get ahead without giving up your enable passwords.
 I remember spending 3 months at a previous job helping an MBA remember
CAT commands because he thought the MBA, ITIL, 6 Sigma stuff would be his
ticket to management and stopped caring about technology.

From:
"Joe Astorino" <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
To:
"Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com>, "John Smith" <hsm_p_at_hotmail.com>
Cc:
"Eman ccieflyer" <eman_at_ccieflyer.com>, barrerj1_at_hotmail.com,
akyccie1_at_gmail.com, netwkengr_at_gmail.com, "CCIE Groupstudy"
<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Date:
08/13/2009 03:55 AM
Subject:
Re: CCIE Jobs
Sent by:
nobody_at_groupstudy.com

Agreed Narbik

Regards,

Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
Cell: +1.586.212.6107
Fax: +1.810.454.0130
Mailto: jastorino_at_ipexpert.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:13
To: John Smith<hsm_p_at_hotmail.com>
Cc: <eman_at_ccieflyer.com>; <barrerj1_at_hotmail.com>; <akyccie1_at_gmail.com>;
<netwkengr_at_gmail.com>; CCIE Lab<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Subject: Re: CCIE Jobs

You must be kidding.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:02 AM, John Smith <hsm_p_at_hotmail.com> wrote:

> In terms of moving up the coporate ladder (i.e. not necessary remain
inside
> the technical circle) and world recognition, having a MBA from
Northwestern
> is
> (to my bias opinion) much better than having CCIEx6. But I think that it
is
> very tough to get into Northwestern in the first place.
>
> > From: eman_at_ccieflyer.com
> > To: barrerj1_at_hotmail.com; akyccie1_at_gmail.com
> > CC: netwkengr_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: CCIE Jobs
> > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:02:38 -0400
> >
> > By the way if you are out on Group Study and anyone is interested I am
> going
> > to be in Brazil in September and will by the drinks for any CCIEs who
> want
> > to meet up. I will be speaking with channel partners and network
academy
> > students like I have in many other locations around the world. My
agenda
> > has me scheduled for Australia and Asia Pac in the next few months as
> well.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Eman (Emmanuel Conde)
> >
> > CCIE AgentT
> >
> >
> >
> > CCIE Flyer
> >
> > 302-438-1681
> >
> >
> >
> > From: JoJo JoJo [mailto:barrerj1_at_hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:36 PM
> > To: eman_at_ccieflyer.com; akyccie1_at_gmail.com
> > Cc: netwkengr_at_gmail.com; ccie groupstudy
> > Subject: RE: CCIE Jobs
> >
> >
> >
> > Mr. Conde
> > I dont want to start a chain of events as we have discussed this topic
> many
> > times in the list (CCIE vs Degree)
> >
> > However, I didnt know about you or your background and I think it will
be
> > great if you can provide some information about the market trends you
are
> > seeing out there. You are an special case and I really value your
> opinion.
> >
> > After passing, CCIE, will it be better another CCIE, an MBA. MIS, PMP.
I
> > know one of my local elite Schools Northwestern University offers a
> combine
> > degree with 70 technical and 30 % business. This looks great but the
> total
> > cost for a 2 year program is near the $90,000
> > I will probably have to eat crakers and move move back to my parents
> house
> > in order to pay for this, Do you think this kind of Executive MBAs are
a
> > good step towads the next level? I know that many things are variables
> > (time, money, personal issues, ect), but if a resume came to your desk
> with
> > such Degree will it be easier to place someone like this than a CCIE
> without
> > it?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jb
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: eman_at_ccieflyer.com
> > > To: akyccie1_at_gmail.com
> > > CC: netwkengr_at_gmail.com; akyccie1_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: CCIE Jobs
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:08:03 -0400
> > >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > I saw the email string on your plight. Please send a copy of your
> resume
> > > and let's discuss your goals and activities of late. I want to
review
> your
> > > resume as well and if necessary make it sell you better.
> > >
> > > The UK market is really bad right now I will say but I have just had
> > > meetings with the folks in Cisco's Emerging Markets East and South
> > America.
> > > I expect to be seeing more from those regions now as well.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Keep your chin up and let's get started ASAP.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Eman (Emmanuel Conde)
> > >
> > > CCIE AgentT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > CCIE Flyer
> > >
> > > 302-438-1681
> > >
> > >
> > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > >
> > >
Received on Thu Aug 13 2009 - 14:05:27 ART