Re: CCIE Jobs

I guess MBA is mush better because all ppl know what is MBA, CCIE rarely u
find ppl know what is it!!!!!!!!!!!!

esp. in the third world places :D

my 2 cents ;)

SE

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM, <Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com> wrote:

> It depends on what you want to do. Obviously, having six CCIE's and
> nothing else won't help you in the sales, customer service or executive
> management circles. However, an MBA isn't exactly a ticket to success.
> There are way more MBA's than CCIE. All things considered I think the
> CCIE is the best way to get ahead without giving up your enable passwords.
> I remember spending 3 months at a previous job helping an MBA remember
> CAT commands because he thought the MBA, ITIL, 6 Sigma stuff would be his
> ticket to management and stopped caring about technology.
>
>
>
> From:
> "Joe Astorino" <jastorino_at_ipexpert.com>
> To:
> "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com>, "John Smith" <hsm_p_at_hotmail.com>
> Cc:
> "Eman ccieflyer" <eman_at_ccieflyer.com>, barrerj1_at_hotmail.com,
> akyccie1_at_gmail.com, netwkengr_at_gmail.com, "CCIE Groupstudy"
> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Date:
> 08/13/2009 03:55 AM
> Subject:
> Re: CCIE Jobs
> Sent by:
> nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>
>
>
> Agreed Narbik
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe Astorino - CCIE #24347 R&S
> Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>
> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:13
> To: John Smith<hsm_p_at_hotmail.com>
> Cc: <eman_at_ccieflyer.com>; <barrerj1_at_hotmail.com>; <akyccie1_at_gmail.com>;
> <netwkengr_at_gmail.com>; CCIE Lab<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Subject: Re: CCIE Jobs
>
>
> You must be kidding.
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:02 AM, John Smith <hsm_p_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In terms of moving up the coporate ladder (i.e. not necessary remain
> inside
> > the technical circle) and world recognition, having a MBA from
> Northwestern
> > is
> > (to my bias opinion) much better than having CCIEx6. But I think that it
> is
> > very tough to get into Northwestern in the first place.
> >
> > > From: eman_at_ccieflyer.com
> > > To: barrerj1_at_hotmail.com; akyccie1_at_gmail.com
> > > CC: netwkengr_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE: CCIE Jobs
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:02:38 -0400
> > >
> > > By the way if you are out on Group Study and anyone is interested I am
> > going
> > > to be in Brazil in September and will by the drinks for any CCIEs who
> > want
> > > to meet up. I will be speaking with channel partners and network
> academy
> > > students like I have in many other locations around the world. My
> agenda
> > > has me scheduled for Australia and Asia Pac in the next few months as
> > well.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Eman (Emmanuel Conde)
> > >
> > > CCIE AgentT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > CCIE Flyer
> > >
> > > 302-438-1681
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: JoJo JoJo [mailto:barrerj1_at_hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:36 PM
> > > To: eman_at_ccieflyer.com; akyccie1_at_gmail.com
> > > Cc: netwkengr_at_gmail.com; ccie groupstudy
> > > Subject: RE: CCIE Jobs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mr. Conde
> > > I dont want to start a chain of events as we have discussed this topic
> > many
> > > times in the list (CCIE vs Degree)
> > >
> > > However, I didnt know about you or your background and I think it will
> be
> > > great if you can provide some information about the market trends you
> are
> > > seeing out there. You are an special case and I really value your
> > opinion.
> > >
> > > After passing, CCIE, will it be better another CCIE, an MBA. MIS, PMP.
> I
> > > know one of my local elite Schools Northwestern University offers a
> > combine
> > > degree with 70 technical and 30 % business. This looks great but the
> > total
> > > cost for a 2 year program is near the $90,000
> > > I will probably have to eat crakers and move move back to my parents
> > house
> > > in order to pay for this, Do you think this kind of Executive MBAs are
> a
> > > good step towads the next level? I know that many things are variables
> > > (time, money, personal issues, ect), but if a resume came to your desk
> > with
> > > such Degree will it be easier to place someone like this than a CCIE
> > without
> > > it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Jb
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: eman_at_ccieflyer.com
> > > > To: akyccie1_at_gmail.com
> > > > CC: netwkengr_at_gmail.com; akyccie1_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> > > > Subject: CCIE Jobs
> > > > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:08:03 -0400
> > > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > I saw the email string on your plight. Please send a copy of your
> > resume
> > > > and let's discuss your goals and activities of late. I want to
> review
> > your
> > > > resume as well and if necessary make it sell you better.
> > > >
> > > > The UK market is really bad right now I will say but I have just had
> > > > meetings with the folks in Cisco's Emerging Markets East and South
> > > America.
> > > > I expect to be seeing more from those regions now as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Keep your chin up and let's get started ASAP.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Eman (Emmanuel Conde)
> > > >
> > > > CCIE AgentT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > CCIE Flyer
> > > >
> > > > 302-438-1681
> > > >
> > > >
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