RE: OT: CCIE Security Vs CISSP

I wouldn't be telling people on here that the CISSP is that easy. There's a
huge difference between studying with braindump questions and studying for
true understanding. I've known people who studied for 6 months that did not
pass the first time out. CCIE Security written is out there in dumps and the
older lab was out as well. The new changes to the security labs and the OEQs
has brought down the passing percentage dramatically. Again, passing tests
isn't purely the goal but rather the knowledge you gain on the path.

Travis

Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:35:09 +1000
Subject: Re: OT: CCIE Security Vs CISSP
From: kingstonp.ccie_at_gmail.com
To: niedentj_at_hotmail.com
CC: mrnauman_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com

Depends on time also:

CISSP should only take you 4 - 6 weeks of study. 1 multiple choice exam. A big
percentage from my work passed in 1 attempt.

CCIE Security will take 6 - 12 months of solid study. 2 exams, 1 multiple
choice and 1 practical on cisco equipment. A small percentage pass.

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Regards,
Peter Kingston
CCIE #21194
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Travis Niedens <niedentj_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
IMHO, each has their strengths and pitfalls.
I have the CISSP and am working on the CCIE Security.  I've had the CISSP for
almost 5 years now and it has been somewhat helpful in my career.  The CISSP
covers 10 CBKs:
Information Security and Risk Management
Computer Operations Security
Physical (Environmental) Security
Security Architecture and Design
Access Control
Cryptography
Telecommunications and Network Security
Application Security
Business Continuity and Disaster Recovery Planning
Legal, Regulations, Compliance and Investigations
As you can see, this covers a much wider base of knowledge.  The analogy is
"a
mile wide and an inch deep".  The certification requires:
1. Documented proof of security experience in your career.
2. References that can validate your expertise.
3. Paying for the test (cheaper than the CCIE Lab).
4. 1 x 6 Hour test w/ 300 Questions.
5. Once passed, yearly continuing education and membership dues (cheaper
still
than the Lab).
Many IT/IS auditing functions / positions call for this as well as the CISA
or
SSCP. Additionally, this is a vendor agnostic test that covers security from
a
standards approach (ISO / RFC).
As for the CCIE Security, this would be more of the "inch wide and a mile
deep".  While it is a great certification, it really is all about
implementing
and troubleshooting Cisco security technologies.  As the lab is only 8 hours,
they can only test you on a subset of the overall solution set that Cisco
provides and again, it is Cisco centric.  Passing the CCIE Security does not
require deep knowledge of security guidelines, laws / industry requirements
(PCI) and does not cover multi-vendor solutions.  Personally, I am working on
the CCIE Security and R/S to round myself out as an engineer and architect.
Good luck with whichever path you choose !
Travis
> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:50:41 +0300
> Subject: OT: CCIE Security Vs CISSP
> From: mrnauman_at_gmail.com
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
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> Dear experts,
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> Which will be in ones best interest keeping in view the future prospect of
> networks.
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> i Have seen discussion about CCIE Security - but why not go for CISSP ?
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> Regards,
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> Nauman
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