Re: What do you think - OEQ?

Hi .
Thanks anthony fr your kind offer. I may unicast u directly at a later time.

I respect to the OEQ's i guess what i am trying to say is ... dont be too
worried ..yes they are badly worded. but dont over-think them.. i havent had
any that were "deep questions" but if you know the general stuff .. u should
be fine !!! ..on the other hand maybe i was lucky and had easy questions
both times... thats also possible...
 I re-read my own notes on multicast and STP the night before the exam coz
theres a lot of stuff in there that they can ask tricky questions on ....
obviously i cant say whether i did or didnt have questions relating to those
topics (NDA Applies) but ... i finished the written part in 10 minutes both
times ...which means i picked up 20 minutes for the config section.

This may be be an upside for the new format exam in that the config section
is now going to be 6 hours... but if you area gun troubleshooter.. (and u
should be by now) then you may pick up an hour for config ..

just a thort..

Regds
Alan E

On 7/29/09, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Alan!
>
> I hope you can realize your dream...it sounds like you must be very close.
> Let me know via direct email if I can help in any way.
>
> I am definitely seeing a reverse trend now as far as the Core Knowledge
> Section goes. When it was first introduced, the questions were so poor that
> it was the make or break issue for many perfectly qualified candidates. Now,
> as they improve, I am seeing more first time non-passers doing just fine
> there, but having issues with configuration.
>
> The reasons for failing the configuration portion have certainly not
> changed - "ran out of time", "task misinterpretation", etc.
>
> While making these statements, I will say how relative all of this is. If a
> student gets Core Knowledge questions on OSPF, BGP, IPv6, and Multicast and
> these topic domains are their strongest areas - of course they report the
> section was an absolute joke. In fact, the feedback you see regarding the
> section ranges from "A CCNA could pass it" to "It cannot be passed!"
>
> :-)
>
> One of the things I feel compelled to constantly remind students of is the
> power of positive thoughts! If you are walking into the exam
> thinking...."just my luck the stupid four questions will fail
> me"....well...it just might happen. Think about it. If a candidate is really
> nervous about them, they might not clearly "see" just how easy the question
> actually is!
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
> http://www.INE.com <http://www.ine.com/>
>
> Test your Core Knowledge today!
> Q: What does the BSR protocol uses the following to distribute groups among
> multiple RPs?
> A: The Hash Mask
> More Info:
> http://books.google.com/books?id=GdWAapirZ9gC&pg=PA490&lpg=PA490&dq=%22hash+mask%22+bsr&source=bl&ots=66M5qNmA48&sig=3nEl9vrZLS2aNxN4Mse-u6IE7w0&hl=en&ei=iqtvSsXtC8vFlAf3kJnPBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:24 PM, Alan Ewer wrote:
>
> Hi All
>>
>> I would have probably answered this question as:
>>
>> Whichever switch had the higher bridge ID ..
>>
>> I have now done the OEQ twice and done well in both lab attempts.. -
>> Failed
>> the Lab but passed the OEQ .. The guidelines say "most questions should
>> take
>> an answer of 4-5 words.". but i have had a question which took a few
>> sentences to provide a clear answer.. I also prescribe to the theory of
>> dont
>> over-elaborate as this can introduce silly mistakes which can cause a
>> proctor to have a reason to fail you on the question.
>>
>> I wonder how many are failing the OEQ and passing the LAB ??
>> My problem is interpretting the questions i think.... cant fi that i dont
>> think and now out of money/time for a re-attempt so my dream of ccie is
>> fading fast !
>>
>> anyhow good luck everyone.. this is just my two bobs worth ...
>>
>>
>> Regds
>> Alan E
>> Brisbane Australia
>>
>>
>> On 7/29/09, Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_ine.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> No - from a grading perspective there is no such thing as less or more
>>> credit.
>>>
>>> The proctor reads your response and decides if you demonstrated you
>>> know your stuff or not. If yes - you pass the question, if no - you
>>> fail the question.
>>>
>>> The idea is to make darn sure you demonstrate you know your stuff.
>>>
>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>
>>> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
>>> http://www.INE.com <http://www.ine.com/>
>>>
>>> Test your Core Knowledge today!
>>> Q: What feature should you configure if network instabilities impose
>>> high load on router CPU due to perpetual RPF re-calculations?
>>> A: RPF backoff
>>> More Info:
>>>
>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipmulti/configuration/guide/imc_sub2nd_convg_ps6017_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html#wp1055449
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 3:43 PM, <Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com> <
>>> Keegan.Holley_at_sungard.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> That brings up an interesting question as to how exactly these are
>>>> scored. For example would he be given less credit than someone who
>>>> did not specify the default priority at all? In an interview I
>>>> would consider the candidate that was 1 too high to be more
>>>> knowledgeable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Re: What do you think - OEQ?
>>>>
>>>> Anthony Sequeira to: Molomo
>>>> 07/28/09 10:35 AM
>>>>
>>>> Sent by: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>>>> Cc: ccielab
>>>>
>>>> Please respond to Anthony Sequeira
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are on the right track here for sure. In fact, I have had passing
>>>> students actually elaborate down two different paths because the Cisco
>>>> question was so vague. For example, their answer looked something like
>>>> this - "If you meant A with your question, the answer is B. But if you
>>>> meant C with your question, the answer is D." :-)
>>>>
>>>> What you cannot do is write a novel. They have made it clear that they
>>>> will not even bother to read it.
>>>>
>>>> Also, when elaborating, be very sure you are truly technically
>>>> accurate. I notice in your example below you have 32769*MAC. It should
>>>> be 32768 + MAC. :-)
>>>>
>>>> We certainly do not want to inadvertently give the proctor another
>>>> reason to doubt our expertise!
>>>>
>>>> Keep up the great work Molomo!
>>>>
>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
>>>> http://www.INE.com <http://www.ine.com/>
>>>>
>>>> Test your Core Knowledge today!
>>>> Q: Four NAT terms are used to describe IP addresses in a NAT scenario.
>>>> The address of HostA (inside your corp) as known to HostB (Internet)
>>>> is typically referred to as which term?
>>>> A: The Inside Global Address
>>>> More Info:
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk361/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094831.shtml
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Molomo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Expert,
>>>>>
>>>>> With OEQ can I give an example, or that might be considered over
>>>>> elaborating?
>>>>>
>>>>> For example wth the question below, which answer will be more
>>>>> appropriate?
>>>>>
>>>>> Question:
>>>>>
>>>>> Between catalyst switch and transparent bridge which is more
>>>>>
>>>> likely to
>>>>
>>>>> be spanning tree root?
>>>>>
>>>>> Answer 1 :
>>>>>
>>>>> Transparent bridge because it does not use ext system id.
>>>>>
>>>>> Answer 2 :
>>>>>
>>>>> Transparent bridge because it does not use ext system id, eg with
>>>>>
>>>> Vlan
>>>>
>>>>> 1 default priority, catalyst will have BID of 32769 *MAC and
>>>>> transparent bridge will have BID 32768*MAC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Molomo
>>>>>
>>>>>
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