Re: CCIE Amnesty?

Darby,

Your point is right when a CCIE is associating his ID with a partner whom
with he is not working. I agree, the candidate deserves the punishment of
being stripped with his certificates.

But my concern is, If a partner goes for audit in some country showing few
CCIEs are associated in that country where in real, those CCIEs neither have
work permit for those country nor living in that country, but working as
part of the company in different country. How will the candiate knows that
his ID is misused.?.

Regards,
Nag

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I am still not sure whether their is any "law" or "legal" repurcussion.
>
> I candidate signs an agreement saying how he or whe will use the
> certifciation within specifications as specified by Cisco.
>
> If the candidate, the ONLY person who can assign his/her own number to a
> partner, does so... then the partner is not at fault because the CCIE was an
> idiot.
>
> The CCIE when caught up with either in the current year or in later years
> as deemed appropriate by Cisco will be stripped of a CCIE and probably for
> life.
>
> The CCIE and not the parter, has made a conscious decision to DEVALUE the
> CCIE progam. It is the CCIE who will always suffer the AXE, not the
> partner.
>
> The partner will have to find another CCIE else lose the partnership.
>
> The CCIE will have to find another certification program to defraud.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:33 AM, NN Kumar <nagendra.cisco_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think it is not fair to strip an individual's certificates when the
>> employer is trying to cheat Cisco. Normally, the company will not let know
>> the individual where his certificate is being associated. In such case, how
>> would any one get to know there is something illegal association happening
>> with his certificate?.
>>
>> Is there any cisco mail list where we can confirm if this is legal or
>> not?.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I think it is not so much a legal issue.
>>>
>>> Cisco would probably just strip the person's certifications.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Cisco League <
>>> ciscoleague_at_googlemail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> > What if you are asked to attach your CCO to a country where you are not
>>> > employed.
>>> > Example: You work for a company having offices in countries A,B and C.
>>> The
>>> > company has a partner status in country A and B but not C. You are
>>> employed
>>> > in country A but asked to attach your CCO to country C thus helping the
>>> > company to get partner status in country C. Now where does the company
>>> and
>>> > the candidate stand with respect to legal aspect and possible
>>> repercussions
>>> > to the candidate if this comes to notice of Cisco.
>>> > To my understanding you should be employed in the country where your
>>> CCIE
>>> > numbers is being used to gain partner status.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Considering there is a process to become a partner - I don't think it
>>> is
>>> > > easy to become registered with a Partner without one's own notice.
>>> > Unless
>>> > > they have all your usernames, passwords, CSCO Number/Password, etc.
>>> >
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