Re: OT: Cisco Certified Architect

I agree with some of this. Have Cisco done their homework on using the
Architect moniker? I know 'real' engineers get cross about this sort of
thing vis-a-vis MCSE and CNE.

All that said, I work with many IT professionals with the 'Architect'
moniker.

It is a Cisco centric thing this I imagine. Funny thing is field
environments are mixed, legacy exists and there are sometimes *better*
choices than Cisco boxes for lots of reasons. So it's a Cisco Architect
rather than a Network Architect qualification. On that note, many CCIE's are
unfamilar with CSS (aka Arrowpoint) configuration. I realise this is not an
'Architect' level diversion but loadbalancing happens and app developers
with increasing disdain for TCP seem to keep on blaiming networks when their
apps fall over. Hopefully it's covered.

Regards
Gary
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From: "Travis Niedens" <niedentj_at_hotmail.com>
To: <rwest_at_zyedge.com>; <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: OT: Cisco Certified Architect

> For me -- 15k for a certification is a killer. Cisco and large partners
> more
> than likely will be the only ones paying for people to take the test.
>
>
>
> If you take a look at the cost, it is the most costly certification - at
> least
> that I am aware of. For the cost of this ALONE, without any study
> materials
> or fancy hardware or travel/lodging, I can pretty much pay for my Masters
> in
> Information Assurance and Security at Capella University. Keep in mind,
> with
> a Masters, I can jump to any part of IT and usually higher positions than
> you
> see on dice / monster for a CCIE / CCDE. Another item to keep in mind is
> that
> most networks are not 100% Cisco. I would assume the caliber of person
> who
> "should" get through the CCA will be able to deal with that and in fact it
> would be crazy for Cisco not to include this in the CCA process. My hope
> is
> that this truly is a Architect test vs. what people have been calling the
> CCDE
> - the Russ White design test.
>
>
>
> Travis
>
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