Re: Failed 1st attempt Friday

Narbik,

Seems like some good advice to me. I have waited this long juggling evening
lab prep with work and young family, seems a shame to rush the last bit and
grab whatever slot shows up.

Regards
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
To: "Piyoush Sharma" <piyoush_at_gmail.com>
Cc: "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>; "Ramanpreet Singh"
<sikandar.raman_at_gmail.com>; "Marcus Bedford" <marcus.bedford_at_mebway.com>;
<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: Failed 1st attempt Friday

> Marcus,
>
> Remember this is a long process and NOT a short one, and you should NOT be
> afraid of V3, V4 or even V8, they added some new stuff to the lab, but
> they
> did not make the lab impossible, i honestly believe that a person that
> passes the new version is exposed to more and better stuff than a person
> that passed the older version.
> Take you time and go over the recommendations i gave you guys, my new 2.0
> material will be totally completed within the next two weeks, and i highly
> recommend retaking the boot camp again, and remember that consistency will
> pay off, you need to study and create a study plan, attacking each
> protocol
> separately and you should not let go unless you know that protocol inside
> out. The question is "When would i be ready?" well....when ever you are
> able
> to answer all of *your *questions.
> Let me know if you need any help. Was the class and the work books
> relevant? If they were, then, its matter of finding the time to study, but
> your study plan should be a comfortable one, so you wont get bored with
> it.
> Don't rush, you have what it takes, and you will do it, but when you are
> ready.
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Piyoush Sharma <piyoush_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Erm Joe,
>>
>> I think you missed the announcement from Cisco about their 90-day
>> cancellation policy. So unless someone out there paid for the lab but
>> dont
>> feel like attending and cancel, it is almost impossible to get a date
>> before
>> the blueprint (or topic, as Cisco now calls it) change...
>>
>> Piyoush.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Joseph L. Brunner
>> <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
>>
>> > Like pretty, smart, single, educated women our age, Lab seats become
>> > available
>> > DAILY.
>> >
>> > Keep looking...
>> >
>> > I have picked up both kinds of "dates" at the last minute, when I least
>> > expected it...
>> >
>> > The 28 day rule will kick in and smash some guys little Capital One
>> > Visa
>> > card
>> > with a $1415 limit... his date will be dropped... Take and enjoy
>> >
>> > -Joe
>> >
>> > From: Ramanpreet Singh [mailto:sikandar.raman_at_gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:44 AM
>> > To: Joseph L. Brunner
>> > Cc: Marcus Bedford; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> > Subject: Re: Failed 1st attempt Friday
>> >
>> > Joe,
>> >
>> > You are probably right in your suggestion but there are no dates
>> available
>> > (
>> > at least in US) before October 18th. I think for people like Marcus and
>> me,
>> > we
>> > only have a option for CCIEv4 which should be doable by the time-frame
>> > mentioned by Marcus.
>> >
>> > Marcus,
>> >
>> > Hang in there my friend, you will be CCIE pretty soon.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Raman
>> > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Joseph L. Brunner
>> > <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com<mailto:joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>> wrote:
>> > Marcus,
>> >
>> > Itb s a process, not a single event to become a CCIE.
>> >
>> > I donb t think you should wait so long for your retake.
>> >
>> > I think your next retake should come in Sept.
>> >
>> > I think you should dive back in, perhaps go over the "Tech" with one of
>> > us...
>> > I would be more than happy to get you some webex training sessions with
>> me,
>> > gratis.
>> > Lots of this stuff is quite easy, personally I was underwhelmed by the
>> NON
>> > switching/routing stuff in there... There were some questions that I
>> > thought
>> > were canned, and
>> > IT SEEMED CISCO LET A CCNA WRITE PART OF THE LAB
>> >
>> > Unicast me and I'll be happy to work with you to "affirm" you
>> > qos/multicast/security facets when you're ready to get back on the
>> > horse.
>> >
>> > GRIN:)
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com<mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
>> > [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com<mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>] On Behalf
>> Of
>> > Marcus Bedford
>> > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:31 AM
>> > To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com<mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> > Subject: Failed 1st attempt Friday
>> >
>> > Hey guys,
>> >
>> > I wanted to share my experience from my first attempt in San Jose on
>> Friday
>> > 7/17. I passed the open ended questions. I had four of them. Two
>> > were
>> > very
>> > easy, one was borderline CCNA level, and the other 2 were challenging,
>> but
>> > are
>> > doing if you have been studying for your CCIE. Don't panic so much
>> > about
>> > those. I think they were inline with the Written exam.
>> >
>> > 90% in switching, 75% in IGPs, and I nosed dived after that. Getting
>> > either
>> > minimum to no points. Some partially do that i did not have complete
>> > functionality with my IGP's.
>> >
>> > I took Narbik's boot camp the weak before and I was weak in Multicast
>> > and
>> > QOS.
>> > I did not have enough time to lab up the workbooks to master those
>> > technologies and it showed as i spent much of my time searching the DOC
>> cd
>> > for
>> > help. The funny thing is, I did take the time to read all Narbik's 2.0
>> > workbooks and I did not get asked a task that was not explained in his
>> > books,
>> > LOL.
>> >
>> > Narbik's workbooks, are like Prego spaghetti sauce, it's in there.
>> >
>> > Next steps.
>> >
>> > For now, I am taking the remainder of the month off other than some
>> > light
>> > reading.
>> >
>> > August will declare war on Qos and Multicast. I want to get rid of
>> > them
>> as
>> > I
>> > have been putting them off too long. I want to retake Narbik's boot
>> > camp
>> > in
>> > October and get the new materials for the new format and plan to have
>> > myself
>> > positioned to re-take my 2nd attempt in jan/Feb 2010 time frame.
>> >
>> > Advice,
>> > I noticed that the subjects that i felt comfortable in, switching and
>> > IGP's(most of the time) I offer my assistance on. Those areas, I was
>> > not
>> > comfortable in, I would sit back and be quiet. My Lab scoring followed
>> > that
>> > pattern. I would recommend hitting all core areas that you do not feel
>> > comfortable explaining it to someone else, right or wrong, because if
>> > you
>> > are
>> > not confident, you will fail that area or waste time searching the
>> > DocCD
>> > for
>> > answers like I did.
>> >
>> >
>> > Marcus
>> >
>> >
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