Re: Split horizon in OSPF???

While I can't say for everyone else, for myself I can, when I left the
military I was required to attend a debrief for things that could not be
confirmed or denied. I guess it was to make sure I knew what was repeatable
and what was not based on my own history.

My daddy (also former military) used to tell me quite clearly - If I did not
see it myself then how could I verify the veracity of something. Everything
else may or not be true or false.

I can tell everyone without a doubt that they may very well encounter words
such as "A", "The", "If" "When", etc. Hope that didn't break the NDA too
much,

If a person had never encountered a question on his or her lab, how can that
person disclose it? Can't be done by definition.

So I guess it is hard for a person to break an NDA if a word, question,
example, etc. were never agreed to have been part of a givn NDA.

Now the person who confirms or denies such a thing (and did see such a thing
for example on the lab) would have broken the confidentiality agreement by
confirming or denying such information.

Here's a common definition of the term:

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A *non-disclosure agreement* (NDA), also known as a *confidentiality
agreement*, *confidential disclosure agreement* (CDA), *proprietary
information agreement* (PIA), or *secrecy agreement*, is a
legal<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law>
contract <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract> between at least two
parties <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_(law)> that outlines
confidential materials or knowledge the parties wish to share with one
another for certain purposes, but wish to restrict access to. It is a
contract through which the parties agree not to disclose information covered
by the agreement. An NDA creates a confidential relationship between the
parties to protect any type of confidential and proprietary information or a
trade secret <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_secret>. As such, an NDA
protects non-public business information.

NDAs are commonly signed when two
companies<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_(law)>or
individuals <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual> are considering doing
business and need to understand the processes used in each others business
for the purpose of evaluating the potential business relationship. NDAs can
be "mutual", meaning both parties are restricted in their use of the
materials provided, or they can restrict the use of material by a single
party.

It is also possible for an employee to sign an NDA or NDA-like agreement
with an employer. In fact, some employment agreements will include a clause
restricting employees use and dissemination of company-owned "confidential
information." NDAs are used in the IT field, and are often given directly
prior to taking a certification exam.

In rare cases, the contract may state that the existence of the NDA itself
cannot be disclosed.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:

> However, the re-use rate (or not) is not public knowledge. Going back to
> your security clearance analogy from a different post, when you have a
> clearance, you generally shouldn't NEED a debrief to know what to disclose
> or not. :)
>
> One of the initial instructions you should have received for your clearance
> is to disclose nothing by default. Then work from there based on approvals.
>
> Just my two cents.
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> Darby Weaver wrote:
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> Now a proctor going over actual OEQ's is another matter and I'm interested
> to see what comes of that part of the NDA or is no longer NDA.
>
> One-shot OEQ's. Not two.
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> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:52 AM, <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com> <ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> Wow, if so, this is so wrong.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alen John <alen.john_at_ymail.com> <alen.john_at_ymail.com>
>
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:13:44
> To: Naufal Jamal<naufalccie_at_yahoo.in> <naufalccie_at_yahoo.in>
> Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Subject: Re: Split horizon in OSPF???
>
>
> hi,
> wont this break NDA??this was an OEQ...
>
> Alen John
> ________________________________
> From: Naufal Jamal <naufalccie_at_yahoo.in> <naufalccie_at_yahoo.in>
> To:alen.john_at_ymail.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 9:00:17 PM
> Subject: Split
> horizon in OSPF???
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> --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Naufal Jamal <naufalccie_at_yahoo.in> <naufalccie_at_yahoo.in>
> wrote:
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> From: Naufal Jamal <naufalccie_at_yahoo.in> <naufalccie_at_yahoo.in>
> Subject: Split horizon in
>
>
> OSPF???
>
>
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Date: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 6:32 PM
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> someone recently asked me a question that is there any way to
>
>
> disable split
>
>
> horizon in OSPF as in case of eigrp or NBMA n/w?got pretty
>
>
> confused.can any
>
>
> one help or send me a link to understand it better.
>
> Naufal Jamal
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