Re: OEQ - Scope ??

At your service, Ravi.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Ravi Singh <way2ccie_at_googlemail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Shaun & Darby .. Helpful Information Indeed ..
>
> Regards,
> Ravi
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Ravi,
>>
>> Let me help you a bit. In the CCIE TECCCIE-3004 Techtorial, given by
>> Steve Barnes, about 30-40 OEQ's were shared with the attendees rather
>> quickly and only a couple of the entire bunch seemed to stump the whole
>> group. I think I changed my mind on like one of them and missed one or two
>> others at first glance. After a while he was moving pretty quickly and I
>> was taking notes of the OEQ's.
>>
>> Let's see - if I could sum them all up in a few words:
>>
>> They seem to be derivatives of items that might be found in the CCIE
>> Written Book by Cisco Press overall.
>>
>> They are mostly fair questions. Not that you'll find most of them in any
>> test bank anywhere.
>>
>> They are probably more "experience" and "observation" of any given
>> protocol more than anything else - by this I mean if you have been
>> configuring protocols while preparing for the CCIE Lab then you probably
>> stumbled on OEQ's the entire time if you ever asked yourself questions like
>> "Why does it work this way", "When does this happen", what are some
>> attributes of this or that feature or command, etc.
>>
>> The essence of the OEQ is simple: Discrimination.
>>
>> The OEQ's were called a "Discriminator".
>>
>> The idea is to discriminate against those people who score say 100% on
>> Frame Relay over OSPF and use the Priority 0 command and can configure it
>> perfectly and yet when asked a question about this scenario have not the
>> first idea on why a person might even use the priority command - for
>> example.
>>
>>
>> So a well-qualified candiate would do well and gain an easy 21 points. A
>> paper tiger will lose those same 21 points and thus fail the lab.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Ravi Singh <way2ccie_at_googlemail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Scott and Anthony for increasing my worry levels ;-) .. Just
>>> Kidding.. Thank you guys ..I was misinterpreting Core Knowledge as Core
>>> Technology Topics on the exam...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ravi
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > According to the CCIE team, the scope is "any topic on the lab
>>> > blueprint". That certainly leaves a lot to the imagination.
>>> Especially
>>> > given how vague the blueprint can be!
>>> >
>>> > I can tell you they will NOT ask about token ring or ATM. :) Beyond
>>> that,
>>> > follow the blueprint!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> #4713,
>>>
>>> >
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>>> >
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Ravi Singh wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello everyone,
>>> >
>>> > I am not sure if this has been discussed before, apologies if it has
>>> been,
>>> > but what all, as per you, can be classifed as "Core Knowledge" for the
>>> > OEQs. Is it just the routing protocols, WAN and switching or is it the
>>> > entire blueprint ..Considering the scope of the OEQs , what all areas
>>> should
>>> > be stressed upon and what can be ignored(only from the perspective of
>>> the
>>> > OEQs) ..
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for all the incoming inputs
>>> >
>>> > Ravi
>>> >
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