Re: OEQ - Scope ??

Ravi,

Let me help you a bit. In the CCIE TECCCIE-3004 Techtorial, given by Steve
Barnes, about 30-40 OEQ's were shared with the attendees rather quickly and
only a couple of the entire bunch seemed to stump the whole group. I think
I changed my mind on like one of them and missed one or two others at first
glance. After a while he was moving pretty quickly and I was taking notes
of the OEQ's.

Let's see - if I could sum them all up in a few words:

They seem to be derivatives of items that might be found in the CCIE Written
Book by Cisco Press overall.

They are mostly fair questions. Not that you'll find most of them in any
test bank anywhere.

They are probably more "experience" and "observation" of any given protocol
more than anything else - by this I mean if you have been configuring
protocols while preparing for the CCIE Lab then you probably stumbled on
OEQ's the entire time if you ever asked yourself questions like "Why does it
work this way", "When does this happen", what are some attributes of this or
that feature or command, etc.

The essence of the OEQ is simple: Discrimination.

The OEQ's were called a "Discriminator".

The idea is to discriminate against those people who score say 100% on Frame
Relay over OSPF and use the Priority 0 command and can configure it
perfectly and yet when asked a question about this scenario have not the
first idea on why a person might even use the priority command - for
example.

So a well-qualified candiate would do well and gain an easy 21 points. A
paper tiger will lose those same 21 points and thus fail the lab.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Ravi Singh <way2ccie_at_googlemail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Scott and Anthony for increasing my worry levels ;-) .. Just
> Kidding.. Thank you guys ..I was misinterpreting Core Knowledge as Core
> Technology Topics on the exam...
>
> Regards,
> Ravi
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Scott Morris <smorris_at_ine.com> wrote:
>
> > According to the CCIE team, the scope is "any topic on the lab
> > blueprint". That certainly leaves a lot to the imagination. Especially
> > given how vague the blueprint can be!
> >
> > I can tell you they will NOT ask about token ring or ATM. :) Beyond
> that,
> > follow the blueprint!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> > Ravi Singh wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I am not sure if this has been discussed before, apologies if it has
> been,
> > but what all, as per you, can be classifed as "Core Knowledge" for the
> > OEQs. Is it just the routing protocols, WAN and switching or is it the
> > entire blueprint ..Considering the scope of the OEQs , what all areas
> should
> > be stressed upon and what can be ignored(only from the perspective of the
> > OEQs) ..
> >
> > Thanks for all the incoming inputs
> >
> > Ravi
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