hehehe..that was my impression too once I got to the bottom of the commands to
light it up. A zillion interfaces appeared. Backhauling and jumpering on DDF's
was fun too.
It was a little mysterious at first. Mind you the config of aug tug and what
have you wasn't very helpful on the cisco website. At least what I found.
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Morris
To: Gary Duncanson
Cc: Rick Mur ; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com ; Dale Shaw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: From CCIE R&S to R&S+SP -- commitment required
No SONET interfaces involved. The blueprint will contain a list of
technologies and hardware information that they're opted to list.
SONET would indeed be a good idea IMHO, but not really feasible at this
point based on other choices made. But I agree, I do a lot of work with
those. But that alone isn't particularly special in regards to the
technology. It would freak people out for months on end when it involves
perhaps 2-3 new commands. Otherwise same crap different interface. :)
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Gary Duncanson wrote:
Actually I was thinking about STM-1 cards used in 7000 series routers, aug
tug SONET that kind of thing.
Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Mur" <rick_at_rickmur.com>
To: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
Cc: "Dale Shaw" <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: From CCIE R&S to R&S+SP -- commitment required
Channelized? You mean etherchannels, ppp multilink and multilink frame-
relay?
All three could be asked for, although etherchannels are less likely.
Rick Mur
CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / SP)
rick_at_rickmur.com
On 14 jun 2009, at 08:17, Gary Duncanson wrote:
Rick
Are channelized interfaces covered in the SP track? I work with them
a lot in my present SP gig.
Cheers
Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Mur" <rick_at_rickmur.com>
To: "Dale Shaw" <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>
Cc: "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: From CCIE R&S to R&S+SP -- commitment required
I hope I can answer your questions.
- I took a break for about 2 months after passing R&S
- It did allow me to skip learning OSPF and L2 stuff, besides that
you need to learn a lot more. Still I would say a 50-60% overlap. BGP is a
lot more complex within the SP track, IS-IS has quite a few things different
than OSPF. The entire logical set-up of the lab is totally different
(physically it's most of the same equipment)
- I found the written to be more straightforward and real-life than
the R&S exam, I really liked it actually. I did around 2 months of
preparation for the written
- From beginning to passing SP lab I took about 6.5 months, I
really don't know the amount of hours, practically it was labbing all weekend
(5 to 8 hours a day) and 2 to 3 evenings a week I did some reading and
research
- I prepared myself much better for SP, I took the blueprint as
study goal which I didn't do for R&S, for the rest you are familiar with the
procedure of reading, labbing, where to buy labs, where to access equipment,
which makes it a lot more relaxed. I was ready about a month before my lab
date, but I this was the earliest date I could find in Brussels after passing
the written in January.
Rick Mur
CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / SP)
rick_at_rickmur.com
On 13 jun 2009, at 09:39, Dale Shaw wrote:
Hi all,
There are lots of posts on GroupStudy where people are asking for
pointers to good CCIE SP study resources -- that's not the
intention
of this post.
I'd like to hear from people who went on from CCIE R&S to tackle
and
pass SP. Was the time and effort required comparable to that of
your
CCIE R&S journey, or was it more like a logical progression that
required less from you in terms of time and commitment?
Obviously some people tackle CCIE SP without R&S, and presumably
for
them the end-to-end effort is similar for someone doing R&S from
scratch (otherwise plenty of people would be out there saying "SP
is
easier than R&S"). Noting that everybody is different, I suppose
I'm
curious about things like:
- Did you take a break after R&S, and if so, how long?
- How much of your retained R&S knowledge helped with your SP
prep?
Did it allow you to skip much/any content?
- For the SP Written, how long did you prepare and how did you
find
the exam, difficulty-wise? Same as R&S Written?
- How long did it take you, from end-to-end, from the beginning of
your SP prep to passing the SP lab? How many hours, roughly
- Any other observations re: changes in the way you prepared for
R&S versus SP?
Having recently passed R&S, I'm keen to capitalise on my study
'mode'
and habits, but for me, pursuing SP is more about an interest in
the
technology than any other imperative. I know if I leave it too
long,
some of those strange tidbits of information still clanging around
inside my head will disappear, study habits will give way to life,
work will ramp up, and it will be harder to get motivated to get
stuck
into SP.
Cheers,
Dale
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