Re: From CCIE R&S to R&S+SP -- commitment required

No SONET interfaces involved. The blueprint will contain a list of
technologies and hardware information that they're opted to list.

SONET would indeed be a good idea IMHO, but not really feasible at this
point based on other choices made. But I agree, I do a lot of work with
those. But that alone isn't particularly special in regards to the
technology. It would freak people out for months on end when it
involves perhaps 2-3 new commands. Otherwise same crap different
interface. :)

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JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.

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Gary Duncanson wrote:
> Actually I was thinking about STM-1 cards used in 7000 series routers,
> aug tug SONET that kind of thing.
>
> Gary
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Mur" <rick_at_rickmur.com>
> To: "Gary Duncanson" <gary.duncanson_at_googlemail.com>
> Cc: "Dale Shaw" <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: From CCIE R&S to R&S+SP -- commitment required
>
>
>> Channelized? You mean etherchannels, ppp multilink and multilink
>> frame- relay?
>> All three could be asked for, although etherchannels are less likely.
>>
>> Rick Mur
>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / SP)
>> rick_at_rickmur.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 jun 2009, at 08:17, Gary Duncanson wrote:
>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> Are channelized interfaces covered in the SP track? I work with
>>> them a lot in my present SP gig.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Gary
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Mur" <rick_at_rickmur.com>
>>> To: "Dale Shaw" <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>
>>> Cc: "Cisco certification" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:40 AM
>>> Subject: Re: From CCIE R&S to R&S+SP -- commitment required
>>>
>>>
>>>> I hope I can answer your questions.
>>>>
>>>> - I took a break for about 2 months after passing R&S
>>>>
>>>> - It did allow me to skip learning OSPF and L2 stuff, besides that
>>>> you need to learn a lot more. Still I would say a 50-60% overlap.
>>>> BGP is a lot more complex within the SP track, IS-IS has quite a
>>>> few things different than OSPF. The entire logical set-up of the
>>>> lab is totally different (physically it's most of the same equipment)
>>>>
>>>> - I found the written to be more straightforward and real-life
>>>> than the R&S exam, I really liked it actually. I did around 2
>>>> months of preparation for the written
>>>>
>>>> - From beginning to passing SP lab I took about 6.5 months, I
>>>> really don't know the amount of hours, practically it was labbing
>>>> all weekend (5 to 8 hours a day) and 2 to 3 evenings a week I did
>>>> some reading and research
>>>>
>>>> - I prepared myself much better for SP, I took the blueprint as
>>>> study goal which I didn't do for R&S, for the rest you are
>>>> familiar with the procedure of reading, labbing, where to buy
>>>> labs, where to access equipment, which makes it a lot more
>>>> relaxed. I was ready about a month before my lab date, but I this
>>>> was the earliest date I could find in Brussels after passing the
>>>> written in January.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rick Mur
>>>> CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / SP)
>>>> rick_at_rickmur.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13 jun 2009, at 09:39, Dale Shaw wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> There are lots of posts on GroupStudy where people are asking for
>>>>> pointers to good CCIE SP study resources -- that's not the intention
>>>>> of this post.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to hear from people who went on from CCIE R&S to tackle and
>>>>> pass SP. Was the time and effort required comparable to that of your
>>>>> CCIE R&S journey, or was it more like a logical progression that
>>>>> required less from you in terms of time and commitment?
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously some people tackle CCIE SP without R&S, and presumably for
>>>>> them the end-to-end effort is similar for someone doing R&S from
>>>>> scratch (otherwise plenty of people would be out there saying "SP is
>>>>> easier than R&S"). Noting that everybody is different, I suppose I'm
>>>>> curious about things like:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Did you take a break after R&S, and if so, how long?
>>>>> - How much of your retained R&S knowledge helped with your SP prep?
>>>>> Did it allow you to skip much/any content?
>>>>> - For the SP Written, how long did you prepare and how did you find
>>>>> the exam, difficulty-wise? Same as R&S Written?
>>>>> - How long did it take you, from end-to-end, from the beginning of
>>>>> your SP prep to passing the SP lab? How many hours, roughly
>>>>> - Any other observations re: changes in the way you prepared for
>>>>> R&S versus SP?
>>>>>
>>>>> Having recently passed R&S, I'm keen to capitalise on my study
>>>>> 'mode'
>>>>> and habits, but for me, pursuing SP is more about an interest in the
>>>>> technology than any other imperative. I know if I leave it too long,
>>>>> some of those strange tidbits of information still clanging around
>>>>> inside my head will disappear, study habits will give way to life,
>>>>> work will ramp up, and it will be harder to get motivated to get
>>>>> stuck
>>>>> into SP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Dale
>>>>>
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