Re: The Reason for failing?

Hello my dear friend!

Thanks so much for the "shout out". It was an honor to create those
videos for you and Val and the entire NetMasterClass team. You guys
ROCK!

Cannot wait to see you at Networkers.

Warmest Regards,

Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
http://www.INE.com

On Jun 12, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Andrew Bruce Caslow wrote:

> Hi Sameer,
>
> Along with mastering the inner-workings and behavior of specific
> protocols,
> what we have seen over the years is: successful CCIE candidates must
> also
> formulate a highly structured problem-solving AND verification
> approach.
>
> To get CCIE candidates in the correct frame of mind for starting the
> long
> journey of preparing for the CCIE lab, we begin the entire process
> by making
> this assertion that implicitly stressly the need for creating a
> structured
> problem solving approach:
>
> "CCIE candidates, we are going to prepare you to fulfill 'minimally
> described' configuration and troubleshooting tasks".
>
> We feel that this statement captures the essence of CCIE level
> problems:
> they are configuration and/or troubleshooting tasks that are
> "minimally
> described" BUT they might contain explicitly described restrictions.
> Regardless of how minimally described a CCIE level configuration
> task is, a
> CCIE candidate should be able to solve the task. They should know
> what to
> look for and know what questions to ask.
>
> In the Cisco 360 program, the problem solving approach we recommend
> for
> these "minimally described" types of problems is called "issue
> spotting and
> options analysis". Also, due to the strong influence of Bob Sinclair
> one of
> our Cisco 360 master instructors and lead content developers, heavy
> emphasis
> is placed on verification of a task, even more so than on the
> configuration
> of the task itself.
>
> By using a consistent problem solving and learning approach, CCIE
> candidates
> can use the same approach for each new protocol and technology they
> learn.
> While the technical topics may change, the problem solving and
> learning
> approach remains constant.
>
> This is why we say the CCIE lab is as much about measuring the
> mastery of
> protocols and technologies as it is about validating one's problem
> solving
> and analysis skills.
>
> To get a better understanding of this, check out some of the Cisco
> 360 Video
> on Demand Lesson Modules. In particular, check out the Link-Layer (7
> hours
> of Video), IGP (6 hours) or BGP Lesson Modules (7 hours). Not only
> do these
> modules cover the stated technology, they apply the consistent "issue
> spotting and options analysis" problem solving approach. They are also
> bundled with Spot the Issues quizzes and hands-on technology focused
> labs.
> As the VoD presenter talks, you can watch him configure and verify the
> specific technologies at an actual router or switch prompt as if you
> were
> looking over his shoulder while he was typing. It is a very effective
> presentation style.
>
> The presenter in each of the Video-on-Demand sessions mentioned
> above is
> none other than Mr. Anthony Sequiera, now of InternetworkExperts.
> Anthony
> did a great job presenting this content. I really enjoyed working
> with him
> on this project. Thanks Anthony!!! You deserve an Academy Award for
> your
> performance! : )
>
>
> HTH,
>
> -Bruce Caslow CCIE #3139
> Cisco 360 Master Instructor
> NetMasterClass, LLC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> sameer khan
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:03 AM
> To: narbikk; marc.a.laporte_at_gmail.com
> Cc: asequeira_at_internetworkexpert.com; groupstudy
> Subject: RE: The Reason for failing?
>
> every one who is preparing for CCIE exam already know ( i am
> guessing) the
> fact that knowing the inner work or behavior of protocols are
> essential key
> to
> passing, then why people not concentrate on that if that is the
> reason.
>
> as i have heard, your worst enemy will hide in the last place you
> will ever
> look, or in this case least expected topic :D
>
> and as with some of the stuff, there are no minor topics. :D
>
> Thanks all for answering
>
> Regards
> --c
>
>
>> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:45:30 -0700
>> Subject: Re: The Reason for failing?
>> From: narbikk_at_gmail.com
>> To: marc.a.laporte_at_gmail.com
>> CC: khanzadap_at_hotmail.com; asequeira_at_internetworkexpert.com;
> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>
>> I agree with Scott 100 percent.
>>
>> So you should make number 10, WAS I READY FOR THE TEST?
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Marc La Porte
> <marc.a.laporte_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Sameer,
>>>
>>> I solely failed on underestimating the required knowledge and know-
>>> how
> on
>>> the minor topics (QoS, Security, IP Services, Multicast, etc). Other
> than
>>> that I was fine on the L2/L3 stuff, fine on time management (L2/L3
>>> done
> by
>>> lunch), and fine on the stress (came in the day before, relaxed
>>> with a
> nice
>>> dinner, a non-Cisco book, a bath, an early night, and a good
>>> breakfast).
>>>
>>> I actually ended up not asking anything to the proctor, but that's
>>> not
> why
>>> I
>>> failed...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Marc
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 16:18, sameer khan <khanzadap_at_hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi Anthony;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That really helpful, just a suggestion that if possible IE also
>>>> if can
>>> have
>>>> .pdf format of the articles, that will be great to download or
> printing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In regards to my question, i am trying to figure out why people
>>>> fail,
> so
>>>> that
>>>> concentrate from that perspective. As i am guessing is that
>>>> mixing of
>>>> technologies changes the expected behavior of the
> protocol/configuration
>>>> and
>>>> thus making the matter confusing.
>>>>
>>>> If can one else please add there experiences of being
>>>> unsuccessful, I
>>> will
>>>> be
>>>> greatful.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>> CC: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>>> From: asequeira_at_internetworkexpert.com
>>>>> To: khanzadap_at_hotmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: The Reason for failing?
>>>>> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:51:35 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Sameer!
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some observations I documented about that question in
>>>>> case
>>>>> you have not seen these:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/10/01/common-reasons-for-lab-exam-fa
> i
>>>> lure/<
>>>
> http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2008/10/01/common-reasons-for-lab-exam-fa
> i
> %0Alure/
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626
>>>>> http://www.INE.com <http://www.ine.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Test your Core Knowledge today!
>>>>> Q: What is the primary source of RPF information used by PIM?
>>>>> A: the unicast routing table
>>>>> More Info: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/
>>>>> cc957916.aspx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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