"BTW, it's my understanding that Cisco desires to crank out 4,000 new CCIEs
every >TWELVE< months, so hold on to your hats if you think the past 18
months were anything noteworthy..."
At what point does this start to devalue the certification? MCSEs were a
big deal at one point. Now they might be able to get a job on a helpdesk
somewhere.
On May 6, 2009 9:46am, Scott M Vermillion <scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com> wrote:
> > I think you pretty much need a CCIE to make a living in most places
> these days
> I attended a meeting a while back and of the seven people in the room,
> three of us were R&S CCIEs (two independent consultants and one channel
> partner rep). The other four were the prospective client. Out of the CCIE
> bunch, I was the only one to not have ever published a book (need to get
> on that!). So I think we are indeed reaching that point of critical mass
> that Bobby suggests where the baseline expectation for consulting work
> (not just independent consulting, but also the kind where you are farmed
> out by your employer/channel partner too) is that you hold at least one
> CCIE. In an effort to stand out from the rest of the CCIE pack, people
> are pursuing second, third, etc CCIEs, MBAs, and even publishing books
> just for the name recognition (there's not a lot of money in it from what
> I understand, at least not directly).
> BTW, it's my understanding that Cisco desires to crank out 4,000 new
> CCIEs every >TWELVE
> On May 5, 2009, at 5:26 , Joseph L. Brunner wrote:
> Nope... not even close guys...
> Having two kids and $120,000 is not even your bills anymore after
> taxes... if that doesn't motivate you to pass the CCIE nothing will...
> I have lots of friends and ex-coworkers in that boat...
> I think you pretty much need a CCIE to make a living in most places these
> days and the number of people studying/taking/passing directly reflects
> that...
> Like 5 years ago I would ask people so are you going to get your CCIE,
> they would say stuff like "my wife wont let me retreat from the family
> all weekend", etc.
> Now it's, Oh I passed R/S, I'm actually working on Voice :)
> -Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Brad Ellis
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:28 PM
> To: Modular; Cisco certification
> Subject: RE: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
> Oh boy...here we go...
> So, first off, the lab is one day, vs. 2-days. But the biggest change is
> the number of seats available. Probably 2 to 3 times that "back in the
> day" if not more. I'd say that the biggest impact.
> thanks,
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> Modular
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:22 PM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: 4000 CCIEs in 18 months???
> ALL,
> I have a friend who passed his lab, (security), in November of 2007. His
> number is 19511. I passed last week and my number is 24266. So, in 18
> months
> 4700+ people got their number. This seems crazy when you consider that
> between 1993 and the end of 2007 there were 18500+ CCIEs. What do you
> guys
> attribute this increase to? Dynamips?? Is it that there s wasn t an
> Ipexpert
> or Internetwork Expert around back in the day ? Is the lab easier than
> it
> use to be?
> Bryan
> Bryan Rakestraw
> CCIE# 24266 (R&S)
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