RE: Cisco Announced change to R&S

Folks,

The CCIE lab can and should change. We all know that otherwise it just
becomes a worthless paper cert. However, the endless analysis of
"stopping the cheaters" gets old. In the end, there will always be
cheaters and they will have their reckoning when they get on the job
they are supposed to do. Let's just let it go and move on.....

PD (#16842, RS/Sec)

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Darby Weaver
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:33 AM
To: smorris_at_internetworkexpert.com
Cc: ron.wilkerson_at_gmail.com; Nauman Habib; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Cisco Announced change to R&S

Scott that was from the page on the official website.

The other part is yet to occur and may still change.

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Scott Morris
<smorris_at_internetworkexpert.com
> wrote:

> While that would be MY recommended view of the world, that's not the
plan
> du jour. ;)
>
>
>
>
> *Scott Morris*, CCIE*x4* (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
#4713,
>
> JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>
> JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>
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> Knowledge is power.
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> Power corrupts.
>
> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>
>
>
>
> Darby Weaver wrote:
>
> Something they left out:
>
> Candidates will be presented
> with a series of trouble tickets for preconfigured networks, and they
will
> need to diagnose and resolve the network fault or faults a realistic
and
> challenging job task. Candidates who finish the troubleshooting
section
> early can move on to the configuration section, but they will not be
allowed
> to go back to the troubleshooting section, since their equipment will
need
> to be reinitialized for the configuration portion of the exam.
>
>
> Read this carefully.... Very carefully.
>
>
> Now imagine you get to your lab...
>
> 1. You manage to survice the OEQ.
>
> 2. You get to the troubleshooting section (of a network you did not
> configure in the first place - just like work)...
>
> 3. You don't make the score....
>
> 4. You now are told sorry and shown the door and reminded not to miss
you
> flight back home.
>
>
> Sorry guys - the truth hurts.
>
>
> If you do not pass the pre-lab.... you will not set eyes on the new
labs...
>
>
> Cheating has been effectively nullified (at least for now).
>
>
> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
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>
Received on Tue May 05 2009 - 10:14:17 ART