Re: Cisco Announced change to R&S

Chicken - egg.... Egg - chicken.... Blah, blah, blah.

While it would be politically entertaining if the Cisco 360 program were
somehow "required" for the CCIE lab exam, it wouldn't be feasible. Are
you saying that nobody else knows about the tricks and traps?

Or are you saying that the Cisco 360 program will have the actual lab
exams and can train to them?

Either way, doesn't that just put us right back to the same problem of
people passing without actual knowledge? It would put more $$ in
Cisco's pocket, but I really don't think that's the goal here. Long
term that would be suicidal.

Everyone's reacting to the changes. Some people are less adept at
paying attention to NDA or internal information until the release date
than others. :)

But in the end, the question becomes who does it better. Will companies
become obsolete? I doubt it. If you base it off of what's available
today versus the lab in 6 months I'd agree they don't line up. But
neither does the Cisco 360. :) One isn't more or less obsolete than the
other.

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Darby Weaver wrote:
> FYI:
>
> Here's where this scoop started on April 23rd:
>
> http://www.sadikhov.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=166881&st=0
>
>
> The part that is being left out of this thread is the concept that in this
> change to the lab - the CCIE Grey Market Vendors are supposed to be targeted
> for obsoleteness and doen so by the tricks/traps that are to be introduced
> by the Cisco 360 Program.
>
> Ultimately/Theoretically the Cisco 360 Program would somehow become required
> in order for candidates to have a reasonable chance at passing the new CCIE
> RS Lab.
>
>
> That is the other shoe.
>
> And remember:
>
> The OEQ, the Frame-Realy, and everything else stays...
>
> You just don't get as many points for them now (Reference my all or nothing
> point spread above).
>
> Techically the 1-4 point or whatever will be spread about - but:
>
> Imagine that you have to configure all Frame for a whopping 1 point.
>
> Imagaine all vlans + trunking + etherchannel for a whopping 3 points.
>
> Imagine all OSPF "normal" tasks for say 1-2 points per grouping.
>
> That kind of "all or nothing"... same as today with a few more tasks per
> group and a few less points. Think Consolidation and "virtual points".
>
>
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