Re: The story of number #24235

Jason's a great guy. I think he covers the US from time to time as
well. Or at least I'm not aware of anyone else proctoring around here
(although I haven't paid attention in a while!)

Singapore is great a well!

*Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,

JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.

JNCI-M, JNCI-ER

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George Roman wrote:
> Hi Moses,
>
>
> Well the JNCIP M/T lab is mainly based on routing protocols (OSPF, ISIS,
> BGP, RIP) it also contains technologies like FR/ATM/ethernet. The IGP part
> is much like the CCIE R&S exam but the BGP part is more intense than CCIE
> R&S
> The JNCIE M/T which i did not tried it yet starts with a troubleshooting
> part and the rest is more oriented on MPLS QoS, firewall, etc.
> maybe the guys that took this last one can tell more.
>
> The atmosphere in the exam is more relaxed, you have your own room, the
> proctor is more friendly etc (at least in Amsterdam this is how it is).
>
> I have only reffered to M/T track for a complete list see the link below
>
> http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/certification/
>
> Best regards,
> George
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Moses Polalysa <moses.polalysa_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>> Congrats George. Enjoy the number.
>>
>> How is Juniper exam lab compared to Cisco exam lab? :D
>>
>> Regards,
>> Moses
>> CCIE #21883
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:56 AM, George Roman <georgeroman_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I thought it will never happen....
>>>
>>> I started my journey in 2007 when i took my CCNP. For some reason i was
>>> caught in this frustration thing that CCNP was not enough because i have
>>> seen a lot of guys passing this exam and they did not have a clue.
>>>
>>> So i took the written in June 2007 with a very decent score. I thought to
>>> myself.... how hard can the lab be?? What can they make me do that i do
>>> not
>>> know already??
>>>
>>> In June, the company where i was working back then sent me to a CCIE
>>> Bootcamp for two weeks in Austria at FastLane. After we started there i
>>> realised that i am not even close because most of the lab requirements
>>> have
>>> nothing to do with the best practice. I started to feel unprepaired and to
>>> regre that i attended the bootcamp that early but on the other hand i was
>>> happy that this bootcamp make me realise what i should focus on and that
>>> i
>>> can practice for 2 weeks full time.
>>> I started to work harder on the lab and i decided to take a shoot
>>>
>>> I did my first attempt in Dec 2007 and after the lab i had a feeling that
>>> it
>>> was not so bad. My score was about 70% and i have scored most of the
>>> tasks.
>>> Ofcourse after the lab itself i thought i would have scored more and i
>>> started to wander if i do not missinterpret the tasks. By far i can tell
>>> you
>>> that this "interpretation" fear is the most crap feeling that a candidate
>>> can ever have (you do not know what you did wrong in the lab).
>>> The strategy that i used back then was to read the entire lab and then
>>> drow
>>> a diagram. It seem that this did not worked good for me...After 1 hour of
>>> lab i realised that i did not even started. By reading the whole lab did
>>> not
>>> helped me because it didn't steak into my head. The diagram did not helped
>>> me much either.
>>>
>>> The second attempt was in June 2008. After the lab, on the way to the
>>> hotel
>>> i remembered that i forgot to do two things for two tasks, but even with
>>> that i thought i would pass. The score came back in and after i calculated
>>> i
>>> was stoned (aroud 79%). My good friend Hrvoije Sostaric (a guy that i met
>>> in
>>> that FastLane boot camp) encouraged me to rase a reread which i did.
>>> Normally this should have taken like 3 weeks but after 5 weeks i still did
>>> not get any answer back so i asked Cisco: "what is going on there?" Few
>>> days
>>> after i received an email that the result is unchanged. I was complitely
>>> depressed, but what could i do? The fact is a fact.
>>> For this second attempt i have changed the strategy: i started to do the
>>> top-buttom approach (but by analysing some of the implications for the
>>> future tasks, for example if you have frame relay, then try to see what
>>> protocol are you going to run there, if there is going to be
>>> authentication,
>>> just few things so that you do not do it twice) without any diagram. I
>>> felt
>>> that this strategy is much better and i had lot more time.
>>>
>>>
>>> After this i took a short break due to the fact that i got a better job
>>> into
>>> another country at a company which name i am afraid to tell because some
>>> of
>>> you might consider that a blasfemy :) The guys at J encouraged me to take
>>> the CCIE off of my head. So i started again...(this time since i did not
>>> have my own equipments i started using Dynamips and rack rentals) I can
>>> tell
>>> you that it is quite interesting feeling to do both vendors at the same
>>> time.
>>> I started by taking my first moc lab (MOC3) from Internetwork Expert just
>>> to
>>> know where i am, if i forgot things or not, etc. to this one i scored like
>>> 82 percent with very light mistakes. On the way i did another 2 Moc and 2
>>> Asset labs.
>>> Gys... i can tell you some of the moc labs are realy disscuraging. You
>>> think
>>> you did it and then BANG!! the report kicks you. Anyway the proctors at
>>> IE
>>> are very nice persons. Because i was not sure about the score that i
>>> received, I wrote them about some of the tasks which i thought that i did
>>> and they helped me understood what i missinterpret.
>>>
>>> Now the good part. Yesturday i have been in Brusseles for the third time.
>>> I
>>> was not scared about the lab anymore but the OEQ freak me out because the
>>> paranoia is huge among the candidates.
>>> I took a complete 30 minutes to answer the OEQ (at one moment the proctor
>>> said that i am writting too much). I finished the lab around 14:30 i
>>> reviewed it untill 16:25 (found one mistake, and i cleared up some more
>>> possible missinterpretation with the proctor for some of the tasks). My
>>> lab
>>> strategy was to go streight forward (top to buttom) but try to see the
>>> implications on the future tasks also (guess what it si going to happen).
>>> After i arrived home, i was very nervous because of the OEQ mainly because
>>> of the remark that i had from the proctor. I could not sleep all night and
>>> now, around 4 o'clock i decided to take a look and see if i have update
>>> from
>>> cisco. I opened.... and.... BOOM!! the number :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Now i know that a lot of you, candidates are interesting of the material
>>> that you should use for the preparation. After i went through the exam I
>>> personally think that there is no need to do some extra prep if you really
>>> study for the lab. Anyway i tell you what i did: i took the IE product i
>>> did it like 1 and a half times, i took also the free IPexpert thing and i
>>> went through this one two times (just to get an ideea how the questions
>>> should look like and what to study). After that i started to review the
>>> materials for the written. In the last 3 weeks (think of this like 3 hours
>>> per day during the week and full weekend, so if you have more time you
>>> maybe
>>> clear it out faster) i have used the Ciscopress and for some of the topics
>>> that were not covered (like IPv6) i used TCP/IP 1,2.
>>>
>>> For the lab preparation, i would recommand you to visit IE forum, there
>>> are
>>> a lot of good discussions about each IE lab that they have and you can
>>> learn
>>> a lot from the guys that are doing the same mistakes as you.
>>> Also find a strategy that works for you and then during preparation use
>>> only
>>> that one.
>>>
>>> First i want to thank Good for giving me strenght to finalyze this, than
>>> to
>>> my family and especially to my wife who supported me so much and
>>> encouraged
>>> me all the way, my good friend Hrvoje Sostaric who encourage me all the
>>> way,
>>> to the proctors of IE who understood my frustration and helped me
>>> understand
>>> what i do wrong.
>>> As for the future i am planing to take a short break and then i will go
>>> for
>>> JNCIE.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> George Roman
>>> CCIE#24235 (R&S)
>>> JNCIP#685 (M/T)
>>> JNCIS (M/T), CCNP
>>>
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>> --
>> Regards,
>> Moses
>>
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