Re: The story of number #24235

It's just different. The technologies (for the most part) work the same
between the vendors. The difference is, of course, command line and
method of thinking. Once you get that down it's all good.

JNCIP is more inline with the R&S lab in terms of setup, IGPs, WAN,
etc. JNCIE is more inline with the SP lab for content.

In the end, it's all entertaining!

*Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,

JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.

JNCI-M, JNCI-ER

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Moses Polalysa wrote:
> Congrats George. Enjoy the number.
>
> How is Juniper exam lab compared to Cisco exam lab? :D
>
> Regards,
> Moses
> CCIE #21883
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:56 AM, George Roman <georgeroman_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>> I thought it will never happen....
>>
>> I started my journey in 2007 when i took my CCNP. For some reason i was
>> caught in this frustration thing that CCNP was not enough because i have
>> seen a lot of guys passing this exam and they did not have a clue.
>>
>> So i took the written in June 2007 with a very decent score. I thought to
>> myself.... how hard can the lab be?? What can they make me do that i do not
>> know already??
>>
>> In June, the company where i was working back then sent me to a CCIE
>> Bootcamp for two weeks in Austria at FastLane. After we started there i
>> realised that i am not even close because most of the lab requirements have
>> nothing to do with the best practice. I started to feel unprepaired and to
>> regre that i attended the bootcamp that early but on the other hand i was
>> happy that this bootcamp make me realise what i should focus on and that i
>> can practice for 2 weeks full time.
>> I started to work harder on the lab and i decided to take a shoot
>>
>> I did my first attempt in Dec 2007 and after the lab i had a feeling that
>> it
>> was not so bad. My score was about 70% and i have scored most of the tasks.
>> Ofcourse after the lab itself i thought i would have scored more and i
>> started to wander if i do not missinterpret the tasks. By far i can tell
>> you
>> that this "interpretation" fear is the most crap feeling that a candidate
>> can ever have (you do not know what you did wrong in the lab).
>> The strategy that i used back then was to read the entire lab and then drow
>> a diagram. It seem that this did not worked good for me...After 1 hour of
>> lab i realised that i did not even started. By reading the whole lab did
>> not
>> helped me because it didn't steak into my head. The diagram did not helped
>> me much either.
>>
>> The second attempt was in June 2008. After the lab, on the way to the hotel
>> i remembered that i forgot to do two things for two tasks, but even with
>> that i thought i would pass. The score came back in and after i calculated
>> i
>> was stoned (aroud 79%). My good friend Hrvoije Sostaric (a guy that i met
>> in
>> that FastLane boot camp) encouraged me to rase a reread which i did.
>> Normally this should have taken like 3 weeks but after 5 weeks i still did
>> not get any answer back so i asked Cisco: "what is going on there?" Few
>> days
>> after i received an email that the result is unchanged. I was complitely
>> depressed, but what could i do? The fact is a fact.
>> For this second attempt i have changed the strategy: i started to do the
>> top-buttom approach (but by analysing some of the implications for the
>> future tasks, for example if you have frame relay, then try to see what
>> protocol are you going to run there, if there is going to be
>> authentication,
>> just few things so that you do not do it twice) without any diagram. I felt
>> that this strategy is much better and i had lot more time.
>>
>>
>> After this i took a short break due to the fact that i got a better job
>> into
>> another country at a company which name i am afraid to tell because some of
>> you might consider that a blasfemy :) The guys at J encouraged me to take
>> the CCIE off of my head. So i started again...(this time since i did not
>> have my own equipments i started using Dynamips and rack rentals) I can
>> tell
>> you that it is quite interesting feeling to do both vendors at the same
>> time.
>> I started by taking my first moc lab (MOC3) from Internetwork Expert just
>> to
>> know where i am, if i forgot things or not, etc. to this one i scored like
>> 82 percent with very light mistakes. On the way i did another 2 Moc and 2
>> Asset labs.
>> Gys... i can tell you some of the moc labs are realy disscuraging. You
>> think
>> you did it and then BANG!! the report kicks you. Anyway the proctors at IE
>> are very nice persons. Because i was not sure about the score that i
>> received, I wrote them about some of the tasks which i thought that i did
>> and they helped me understood what i missinterpret.
>>
>> Now the good part. Yesturday i have been in Brusseles for the third time. I
>> was not scared about the lab anymore but the OEQ freak me out because the
>> paranoia is huge among the candidates.
>> I took a complete 30 minutes to answer the OEQ (at one moment the proctor
>> said that i am writting too much). I finished the lab around 14:30 i
>> reviewed it untill 16:25 (found one mistake, and i cleared up some more
>> possible missinterpretation with the proctor for some of the tasks). My lab
>> strategy was to go streight forward (top to buttom) but try to see the
>> implications on the future tasks also (guess what it si going to happen).
>> After i arrived home, i was very nervous because of the OEQ mainly because
>> of the remark that i had from the proctor. I could not sleep all night and
>> now, around 4 o'clock i decided to take a look and see if i have update
>> from
>> cisco. I opened.... and.... BOOM!! the number :)
>>
>>
>> Now i know that a lot of you, candidates are interesting of the material
>> that you should use for the preparation. After i went through the exam I
>> personally think that there is no need to do some extra prep if you really
>> study for the lab. Anyway i tell you what i did: i took the IE product i
>> did it like 1 and a half times, i took also the free IPexpert thing and i
>> went through this one two times (just to get an ideea how the questions
>> should look like and what to study). After that i started to review the
>> materials for the written. In the last 3 weeks (think of this like 3 hours
>> per day during the week and full weekend, so if you have more time you
>> maybe
>> clear it out faster) i have used the Ciscopress and for some of the topics
>> that were not covered (like IPv6) i used TCP/IP 1,2.
>>
>> For the lab preparation, i would recommand you to visit IE forum, there are
>> a lot of good discussions about each IE lab that they have and you can
>> learn
>> a lot from the guys that are doing the same mistakes as you.
>> Also find a strategy that works for you and then during preparation use
>> only
>> that one.
>>
>> First i want to thank Good for giving me strenght to finalyze this, than to
>> my family and especially to my wife who supported me so much and encouraged
>> me all the way, my good friend Hrvoje Sostaric who encourage me all the
>> way,
>> to the proctors of IE who understood my frustration and helped me
>> understand
>> what i do wrong.
>> As for the future i am planing to take a short break and then i will go for
>> JNCIE.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> George Roman
>> CCIE#24235 (R&S)
>> JNCIP#685 (M/T)
>> JNCIS (M/T), CCNP
>>
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Received on Tue Apr 28 2009 - 10:25:56 ART