Re: Open-Ended Questions - by Darby

Just for the record - this was another Larry :-)
Darby and I share a common employer ( him currently me previously ).

Larry Hadrava
CCIE #12203 CCNP CCNA
Sr. Support Engineer  IPexpert, Inc.
URL: http://www.IPexpert.com

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Larry <cc13lab_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Darby,
>
> obviously you do not read the posts.... there were multiple people that
> tell
> you what the proctor states if you ask him.... the oeq are 21 points,
> enough
> said, if you don't believe it who cares. You seem quick to tell people that
> they take short cuts to achieving the ccie yet i am pretty sure you do not
> have any digits even though you have taken every bootcamp available out
> there.... where you the one that passed the written with testking?? maybe
> you should reconsider your own study habits and get off of peoples
> cases.....
>
>
> Listen why would people that failed and passed say the same thing?? if you
> count the points on the lab they add up to 79, the proctor states that the
> oeq are 21 points... why is everyone under the impression that people just
> make stuff up? there is nothing that is gained by telling people the wrong
> information, are we trying to get the upperhand on everyone since we saw
> the
> lab? give me a break...
>
> Drop the subject, oeq are there, they are easy for some and not easy for
> others but anyway you look at it they count for 21 points. Ask the proctor
> when you take test.... you can write an book for what they ask on some
> questions and you can respond with 10-20 words on others. Just know the
> subject matter and forget about knowing where to look for an answer....
>
>
> can we please go back to good technical questions and stop advertising
> blogs, and new products??
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Cool:
> >
> > I went ahead and asked a lot of people.
> >
> > You'd be surprised at the number of people who go to the lab and simply
> > don't tally the points.
> >
> > Anyway:
> >
> > 1. The majority of the consensus is the Open-Ended Questions do not have
> a
> > point value by themselves. They are critical and it is stressed that
> they
> > are absolute to passing the lab. However, no explicit points are
> reported
> > (by the majority - I did have one person tell me he was told they were
> > worth
> > 21 points - not sure why the discepancy since he reporrted passing the
> lab
> > -not sure if he reported a number though also....)
> >
> > 2. The people that did tally the points are consistent on the 100 points
> > being the sum of the total of the various sections.
> >
> >
> > For the record: I always tally the points real lab or mock lab. It
> helps
> > my little camera take a "snapshot" of whatever I see and when I stress
> over
> > something it seals into my long-term retention.
> >
> > Ok -
> >
> > This makes more sense:
> >
> > Recap:
> >
> > 1. 4 Questions (maybe 5) and while no one has broken their NDA, they are
> > reportedly not "that hard" for a well-qualified candidate - this is
> > consistent with Cisco's statement to the effect. And now that I've had
> > this
> > confirmed from a number of people who have skill levels I've see, know,
> and
> > can benchmark against - for me this makes sense.
> >
> > 2. The points on the whole test are not diminished. Small matter really.
> > But my curiosity and my common sense were being tested by the idea that
> "21
> > points" could be earned on CCNA-CCNP level questions in the first place.
> >
> > Ok - For those still believe and will take it to the grade 21/79 - hey
> > maybe Cisco has two forms of grading for some people.
> >
> >
> > For me - the matter is now closed. People I know and trust have
> clarified
> > the matter.
> >
> >
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