Re: Open-Ended Questions - by Darby

From: Larry <cc13lab_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:24:58 -0400

Darby,

obviously you do not read the posts.... there were multiple people that tell
you what the proctor states if you ask him.... the oeq are 21 points, enough
said, if you don't believe it who cares. You seem quick to tell people that
they take short cuts to achieving the ccie yet i am pretty sure you do not
have any digits even though you have taken every bootcamp available out
there.... where you the one that passed the written with testking?? maybe
you should reconsider your own study habits and get off of peoples
cases.....

Listen why would people that failed and passed say the same thing?? if you
count the points on the lab they add up to 79, the proctor states that the
oeq are 21 points... why is everyone under the impression that people just
make stuff up? there is nothing that is gained by telling people the wrong
information, are we trying to get the upperhand on everyone since we saw the
lab? give me a break...

Drop the subject, oeq are there, they are easy for some and not easy for
others but anyway you look at it they count for 21 points. Ask the proctor
when you take test.... you can write an book for what they ask on some
questions and you can respond with 10-20 words on others. Just know the
subject matter and forget about knowing where to look for an answer....

can we please go back to good technical questions and stop advertising
blogs, and new products??

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Cool:
>
> I went ahead and asked a lot of people.
>
> You'd be surprised at the number of people who go to the lab and simply
> don't tally the points.
>
> Anyway:
>
> 1. The majority of the consensus is the Open-Ended Questions do not have a
> point value by themselves. They are critical and it is stressed that they
> are absolute to passing the lab. However, no explicit points are reported
> (by the majority - I did have one person tell me he was told they were
> worth
> 21 points - not sure why the discepancy since he reporrted passing the lab
> -not sure if he reported a number though also....)
>
> 2. The people that did tally the points are consistent on the 100 points
> being the sum of the total of the various sections.
>
>
> For the record: I always tally the points real lab or mock lab. It helps
> my little camera take a "snapshot" of whatever I see and when I stress over
> something it seals into my long-term retention.
>
> Ok -
>
> This makes more sense:
>
> Recap:
>
> 1. 4 Questions (maybe 5) and while no one has broken their NDA, they are
> reportedly not "that hard" for a well-qualified candidate - this is
> consistent with Cisco's statement to the effect. And now that I've had
> this
> confirmed from a number of people who have skill levels I've see, know, and
> can benchmark against - for me this makes sense.
>
> 2. The points on the whole test are not diminished. Small matter really.
> But my curiosity and my common sense were being tested by the idea that "21
> points" could be earned on CCNA-CCNP level questions in the first place.
>
> Ok - For those still believe and will take it to the grade 21/79 - hey
> maybe Cisco has two forms of grading for some people.
>
>
> For me - the matter is now closed. People I know and trust have clarified
> the matter.
>
>
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