RE: OT - ACE Rack Rental?

It's good for what it does. Typically the problem is...what doesn't it do?

The interesting story is Cisco's legacy in the space from LD to now.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Larry Hadrava
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:21 PM
To: Scott M Vermillion
Cc: Cisco certification
Subject: Re: OT - ACE Rack Rental?

Scott:
Point taken.
I have heard people that really lovethe ACE or really hate it - not much in
between.

Larry Hadrava
CCIE #12203 CCNP CCNA
Sr. Support Engineer  IPexpert, Inc.
URL: http://www.IPexpert.com

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Scott M Vermillion <
scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com> wrote:

> That's normally the case Larry but I think if you spend some time with
this
> specific lab topology, you'll see that it's put together a little
strangely.
> IIRC, there's some weird NAT and so forth going on so that multiple
"pods"
> can share the same ACE module. So you will not have quite the same
freedom
> with this one as most other PEC labs.
>
> Don't get me wrong - I appreciate all of these offerings. I just wasn't
as
> thrilled with this specific one as most all of the others I've done over
the
> course of time. And again, the main value that I took away was to come to
> an understanding of just how unfriendly these things are in terms of
> configuration. I absolutely hate how Cisco has recycled QoS code into
this
> module. I certainly won't be turning in any designs to clients that make
> use of this nasty little beast...
>
>
> On Apr 22, 2009, at 5:05 , Larry Hadrava wrote:
>
> Remember that you do not have to do the exact lab that the PEC dictates.
>> You
>> can lab up anything that you want to as long as you create your example
>> around the topology on the given rack.
>>
>> Darby - did you visit Steve over at the field office or did you talk to
>> Bill?
>>
>> Larry Hadrava
>> CCIE #12203 CCNP CCNA
>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just left my local Cisco Office and I took the guided tour.
>>>
>>> There are a pair of ACE Modules, a pair of ACE 4710, and a pair of CSS's
>>> on
>>> the premise and available for local usage at least.
>>>
>>> If I were you I'd visit my local SE and get to know them better... who
>>> knows what you might find.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Scott M Vermillion <
>>> scott_ccie_list_at_it-ag.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Greg,
>>>>
>>>> IIRC, that module is for 6500s and 7600s only, so no Dynamips support.
>>>>
>>> I'm
>>>
>>>> normally very bullish on the PEC labs but was not terribly impressed
>>>> with
>>>> the ACE series, so you're not missing out on too much there, IMHO. You
>>>>
>>> do
>>>
>>>> gain a basic familiarization and a healthy disrespect for how they've
>>>> recycled class-map and policy-map code. YUCK!! I think you're going
to
>>>> need to either take a class or try to gain access to some lab gear via
>>>>
>>> Cisco
>>>
>>>> somehow.
>>>>
>>>> You are an independent consultant, no? You have a couple of choices if
>>>> you're interested in PEC access. If you're fully incorporated, you can
>>>> establish a partner relationship for your company (it's not as
difficult
>>>>
>>> as
>>>
>>>> one might think). Or you can just affiliate with someone who already
>>>>
>>> has.
>>>
>>>> Lastly, there's a consultant type of relationship that you can
establish
>>>> with Cisco, but I don't think it affords you full access, so PEC might
>>>>
>>> still
>>>
>>>> be off the table with this option.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 22, 2009, at 6:05 , Gregory Gombas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi gang,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do any of you know where I can rent rack time for the Cisco ACE module
>>>>> or appliance?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also is it possible they have added the ACE to dynamips?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
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