Re: Core Knowledge - Don't mis-interpret this

This post was not a gripe post it was post to get people to run more debugs,
look at the cofiguration of things instead of knowing where to look for it
the doc cd, pull the cobwebs out of the theory portion (how many times do we
hear brian say don't memorize it - know where/how to find it) etc....

Like I said, they had to do something or all of us would be have had a great
dis-service to us once we attained our goal. Would I have passed had I
prepared the way I intend to now?? Probably not. Will I be a better Network
Engineer when I do pass, 100% for sure...

Narbik - your bootcamp was great and the food great but the configuration
portion of my test I passed. The theory is all there, the knowing where to
find stuff (show ip prot, doc cd etc) is all there, the speed is all
there.... I just need to do lab after lab memorizing stuff that I took for
granite before. The chances of me getting another set of quesitons that
contain 2 I can't answer or don't understand is probably very slim (based on
previous posts and people I have talked to that passed). I would probably be
okay if I rescheduled now, just don't want to take another $1400 gamble.

I will let you all know when I do pass thopugh :)

Thanks

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 5:56 AM, prateek reddy <prateek.reddyk_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Guys Ur scaring me alot :D anyway lets see.. What I'll encounter on Monday
> :). Let my try my luck and see whether the day is mine or not!! or else I
> should look for $1400 :D for next attempt :)
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Syed Ali <testcricket_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I got one of my quesitons badly worded. I asked some CCIEs about that
> > question and they had no clue what the questions was trying to ask. At
> the
> > end of the day, a badly worded question may cost $1400!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > -I
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 12:26 PM, prateek reddy <
> prateek.reddyk_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Larry,
> >>
> >> What you said was right. But at the End of the Day, we don't have
> any
> >> other choice, than blindly following what Cisco implements.
> >>
> >> "i think its now fair really...you need to be a book worm not a network
> >> engineer
> >> if the idea was to know everything then they wouldnt give access to the
> >> doc
> >> cd"
> >>
> >> I support this point!!!!!!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Mohamed El Henawy <m.henawy_at_link.net
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > i think its now fair really...you need to be a book worm not a network
> >> > engineer
> >> > if the idea was to know everything then they wouldnt give access to
> the
> >> doc
> >> > cd
> >> >
> >> > anyway...this is the rule of the game , so sorry for you larry...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Narbik Kocharians" <
> >> narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> >> > To: "Larry" <cc13lab_at_gmail.com>
> >> > Cc: <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >> > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:27 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: Core Knowledge - Don't mis-interpret this
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > KNOW THE R&S LAB BLUE PRINT Theory, if you know how to configure the
> >> >> stuff,
> >> >> as a CCIE candidate you should be fine with the theory.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Larry <cc13lab_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> A grabbing subject which I have seen tons of posts on. The problem
> is
> >> the
> >> >>> section is not what it implies...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I usually don't post much but for some reason I have not heard
> anyone
> >> >>> explain what is expected from this section. Some say to read and
> know
> >> >>> your
> >> >>> core L3 stuff really good... other say that it is so easy that you
> >> don't
> >> >>> have to study... Well I figured I would assist in this quest as I
> >> failed
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> test a few weeks back because of this very topic and think there is
> a
> >> >>> feeling out there that if you know your routing/L3 you will be
> >> okay....
> >> >>> Don't be fooled by Core Knowledge - know your ip services/features
> and
> >> >>> off
> >> >>> topics and know how to configure them w/o the doc cd (or at least
> >> try).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Here is a post that I added to my blog, take it for what it is
> worth.
> >> I
> >> >>> have
> >> >>> talked to a lot of other candidates some that had similar
> experiences
> >> and
> >> >>> some had such basic stuff that a ccna could answer. Hopefully this
> >> will
> >> >>> save
> >> >>> someone $1400!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ___- Failed Attempt -
> >> >>> ______________________________________________________
> >> >>> __________________________________________________________
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Been a couple weeks now since my last attempt. The lab went really
> >> good,
> >> >>> felt like I got a test that I knew everything on. Finished up at
> 1:29
> >> in
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> afternoon and had the rest of the time to review. I reviewed the
> >> entire
> >> >>> exam
> >> >>> twice and found 4 errors which would have cost some big points. My
> lab
> >> >>> score...... over 90% in 4 sections....
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Problem is I didn't get open ended questions that I knew, or
> >> >>> understood....
> >> >>> One question was about the configuration of a subset of an ip
> feature.
> >> I
> >> >>> have done IE, IPEXPERT and all of the ASET labs and have not seen
> this
> >> >>> "feature" on any of them. The other question I guess I missed was
> one
> >> >>> written in classic cisco language of which I have still to find the
> >> >>> answer
> >> >>> or the meaning of the question. The other questions that I got were
> >> basic
> >> >>> scenario type questions that required you to know the default values
> >> and
> >> >>> configurations of the feature in question. Not hard if you had done
> a
> >> ton
> >> >>> of
> >> >>> labs (like I had).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I know there are people out there that say the questions are so
> basic
> >> >>> that
> >> >>> any CCIE level candidate should know and I agree. In fact I found
> one
> >> of
> >> >>> my
> >> >>> questions in the chapter summary of one of my cisco press books for
> >> the
> >> >>> ccnp. What is wrong with this type of testing is that there are only
> 4
> >> >>> questions. If you are suppose to be a CCIE you should know 80% of
> >> >>> everything
> >> >>> they throw at you. So with only 4 questions you are at a risk of
> >> getting
> >> >>> 2
> >> >>> questions (or in my case a badly worded question in which no help
> can
> >> be
> >> >>> asked) which you don't know even though you know more than 80% of
> the
> >> >>> material. Why not give us 10 - 20 questions and expand the lab
> another
> >> 30
> >> >>> mins. Then the chances of a well prepared ccie candidate getting
> less
> >> >>> than
> >> >>> 80% are almost non-existant.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I am not at all against the ccie and I think that cisco had to do
> >> >>> something.
> >> >>> After all, I will get this certification and when I do I want all
> the
> >> >>> hours
> >> >>> that have taken away from my family and friends to mean something.
> But
> >> I
> >> >>> think they missed the challenge on this one....
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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> >> >>>
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> >> >>
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