Re: My 1st attempt is Friday...

If you fail the short answer section Cisco deems the exam ineligible for a
reread. It doesn't matter how you did on the lab portion. Apparantly they
have so much faith that their expected answers are the only legitimate
answers and therefore a reread cannot result in changing your score from a
fail to a pass. You can however open a ticket to ensure your answers were
saved correctly and that you didn't fail due to technical glitch.

Apparently if you fail the lab portion but pass the core knowledge section
and you request a reread, the core knowledge section will also be reread.

Yes, this does not seem to make a lot of sense. If the second case warrants
a reread of the core knowledge section, then why wouldn't a reread of a
failed core knowledge section warrant one?

My best advice to you is to get lucky, and receive 3 questions that you can
answer with answers they expect. I've noticed a lot of folks feeling like
they aced the core knowledge section but found out via their score report
that they failed. I haven't heard anyone say they didn't find at least
three out of the four questions to be quite easy - even those who failed the
section seem to agree.

-Josh

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Larry Hadrava <lhadrava_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:

> Thameem:
> I did not make the comments you are quoting. I believe that Anthony and
> some
> others might have made those comments.
>
> However, I have looked into this and according to the Cisco certifications
> online support portal, there will be a reread of the open ended questions
> sections as well. However, you may not ask for a reread of just the open
> ended questions.
>
>
>
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> Larry Hadrava
> CCIE #12203 CCNP CCNA
> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Thameem Maranveetil Parambath <
> tparamba_at_thecontactcentre.ae> wrote:
>
> > * The questions are manually graded by a proctor. If you purchase an exam
> > re-read, they will re-grade your question responses.
> >
> > Hi Larry, whats the meaning of the above statement then?
> >
> > May be cisco has re-thaughts on this section?
> > Also what i heard before was you have to score full in this section for
> > Pass.. but now it is said that one question fail is OK for passing?
> >
> > Did i mistaken the replies?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Thameem
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > michael haynes <mghaynes_at_gmail.com>
> > Sent by: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> > 17/04/2009 04:43 PM
> > Please respond to
> > michael haynes <mghaynes_at_gmail.com>
> >
> >
> > To
> > Larry <cc13lab_at_gmail.com>
> > cc
> > Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_internetworkexpert.com>,
> > "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > Subject
> > Re: My 1st attempt is Friday...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I really appreciate all the comments about the questions. Knowing the
> > process is half the battle against anxiety ;)
> >
> > Michael
> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Larry <cc13lab_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Anthony / All,
> > >
> > >
> > > If you fail the questions you do not get a regrade. They will not even
> > give
> > > you the option on your score report, unfortunately I know this first
> > hand
> > > :)
> > >
> > > * The questions are manually graded by a proctor. If you purchase an
> > exam
> > > re-read, they will re-grade your question responses.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Anthony Sequeira <
> > > asequeira_at_internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Michael!
> > > >
> > > > I have reported you to Cisco for asking about these questions!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > They have been very open (no pun intended) about the rules
> surrounding
> > > > these questions. Here is a list of some key ones for you...
> > > >
> > > > * You must complete this portion of the exam before you start the
> > > > traditional configuration portion.
> > > > * You have a total of 30 minutes to complete this section, you may
> > > > finish early if you like and immediately begin your configuration
> > > section.
> > > > * You will receive 4 questions via the computer and you must
> > provide
> > > > short answers using the computer interface. The questions are not
> oral
> > in
> > > > nature. Typical responses require 4 to 5 words at most.
> > > > * Spelling and/or grammar does not count against you.
> > > > * The questions are manually graded by a proctor. If you purchase
> > an
> > > > exam re-read, they will re-grade your question responses.
> > > > * You may not return to the short answer questions once you have
> > begun
> > > > the configuration portion of the lab exam.
> > > > * You will not receive a score when you complete this section, but
> > you
> > > > must pass this portion to pass the CCIE. You will receive your score
> > in
> > > the
> > > > open-ended section if you fail the exam. The score is reported as 0%
> > or
> > > 100%
> > > > (pass or fail). You may only miss one question in the section in
> order
> > to
> > > > pass.
> > > > * Most students finish the 4 to 5 questions in approximately 12
> > > minutes.
> > > > * The configuration portion of the exam has been reduced to
> > > accommodate
> > > > this initial 30 minutes.
> > > > * You still have a total of 8 hours that makeup the open-ended
> > > questions
> > > > and the configuration portion.
> > > > * You may not access the DOC-CD to answer these questions.
> > > >
> > > > I think that list answers your questions, but if you are concerned
> > about
> > > > anything else - let us know!
> > > >
> > > > Warmest Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> > > > Senior CCIE Instructor
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > > On Apr 16, 2009, at 12:17 PM, michael haynes wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure how much I'm allowed to ask about the Core questions,
> > but
> > > I'm
> > > >> also feeling very anxious about this section even though my lab
> isn't
> > > for
> > > >> awhile still. When this section was first announced, I was under
> > the
> > > >> impression that the questions would be graded prior to allowing the
> > > >> candidate to sit the lab portion - if you potentially are writing an
> > > >> essay,
> > > >> what kind of delay does that give you between completing that
> section
> > > and
> > > >> getting the go-ahead to start the lab...
> > > >>
> > > >> And if it's all graded at the end of the 8 hours, that seems kind of
> > > cruel
> > > >> when you can fail all your marks by getting 2 core questions wrong.
> > > >>
> > > >> If anyone can elaborate without breaking NDA, I'd sure appreciate
> > some
> > > >> insight.
> > > >>
> > > >> Michael
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Bryan Bartik <
> bbartik_at_ipexpert.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I would not worry about being too brief. If the answer can be said
> > in 3
> > > >>> or
> > > >>> 4
> > > >>> words, than that's all you need. I am only mentioning this so you
> > don't
> > > >>> worry about having too short an answer. That being said, I don't
> > think
> > > it
> > > >>> would hurt to elaborate if possible.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Good luck,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Bryan Bartik
> > > >>> CCIE #23707, CCNP
> > > >>> Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > >>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/> <
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> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Jonny English <
> > > redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> good luck man. 1st attempt, just don't have any expectations and
> > don't
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> put
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> too much pressure on yourself.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> you will be fine.....
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Chris Kleban <
> > > Chris.Kleban_at_citrix.com
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Wish me luck.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I'm more nervous about the 30 minute open ended questions then
> the
> > > lab
> > > >>>>> work....
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Chris Kleban
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