Re: My 1st attempt is Friday...

This is an awesome post! Thanks for the clarification.

How funny, you pass the Core Knowledge and fail the Lab portion, you
request a re-read, and the re-read you Core Knowledge. I would
specifically NOT WANT THEM TO DO THAT.

:-)

Anyways folks, do not let this stuff undermine your studies. Keep your
head down and your confidence up.

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On Apr 17, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Josh Fleishman wrote:

> If you fail the short answer section Cisco deems the exam ineligible
> for a
> reread. It doesn't matter how you did on the lab portion.
> Apparantly they
> have so much faith that their expected answers are the only legitimate
> answers and therefore a reread cannot result in changing your score
> from a
> fail to a pass. You can however open a ticket to ensure your
> answers were
> saved correctly and that you didn't fail due to technical glitch.
>
> Apparently if you fail the lab portion but pass the core knowledge
> section
> and you request a reread, the core knowledge section will also be
> reread.
>
> Yes, this does not seem to make a lot of sense. If the second case
> warrants
> a reread of the core knowledge section, then why wouldn't a reread
> of a
> failed core knowledge section warrant one?
>
> My best advice to you is to get lucky, and receive 3 questions that
> you can
> answer with answers they expect. I've noticed a lot of folks
> feeling like
> they aced the core knowledge section but found out via their score
> report
> that they failed. I haven't heard anyone say they didn't find at
> least
> three out of the four questions to be quite easy - even those who
> failed the
> section seem to agree.
>
> -Josh
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Larry Hadrava
> <lhadrava_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
>
>> Thameem:
>> I did not make the comments you are quoting. I believe that Anthony
>> and
>> some
>> others might have made those comments.
>>
>> However, I have looked into this and according to the Cisco
>> certifications
>> online support portal, there will be a reread of the open ended
>> questions
>> sections as well. However, you may not ask for a reread of just the
>> open
>> ended questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ciscocert.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p
>>
>> _faqid
>> =
>> 4610
>> &p_created=1231808224&p_sid=EWPC1zvj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=
>>
>> &p_lva
>> =
>> &p_sp
>> =cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MzksMzkm
>>
>> cF9wcm9kcz0xOTY0LDE5NjUsMTk2NiZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9My4xOTY2JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0x
>> &
>> p_li=&p_topview=1
>>
>> Larry Hadrava
>> CCIE #12203 CCNP CCNA
>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Thameem Maranveetil Parambath <
>> tparamba_at_thecontactcentre.ae> wrote:
>>
>>> * The questions are manually graded by a proctor. If you purchase
>>> an exam
>>> re-read, they will re-grade your question responses.
>>>
>>> Hi Larry, whats the meaning of the above statement then?
>>>
>>> May be cisco has re-thaughts on this section?
>>> Also what i heard before was you have to score full in this
>>> section for
>>> Pass.. but now it is said that one question fail is OK for passing?
>>>
>>> Did i mistaken the replies?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Thameem
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> michael haynes <mghaynes_at_gmail.com>
>>> Sent by: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
>>> 17/04/2009 04:43 PM
>>> Please respond to
>>> michael haynes <mghaynes_at_gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> To
>>> Larry <cc13lab_at_gmail.com>
>>> cc
>>> Anthony Sequeira <asequeira_at_internetworkexpert.com>,
>>> "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>> Subject
>>> Re: My 1st attempt is Friday...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I really appreciate all the comments about the questions. Knowing
>>> the
>>> process is half the battle against anxiety ;)
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Larry <cc13lab_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anthony / All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you fail the questions you do not get a regrade. They will not
>>>> even
>>> give
>>>> you the option on your score report, unfortunately I know this
>>>> first
>>> hand
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> * The questions are manually graded by a proctor. If you purchase
>>>> an
>>> exam
>>>> re-read, they will re-grade your question responses.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Anthony Sequeira <
>>>> asequeira_at_internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Michael!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have reported you to Cisco for asking about these questions!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> They have been very open (no pun intended) about the rules
>> surrounding
>>>>> these questions. Here is a list of some key ones for you...
>>>>>
>>>>> * You must complete this portion of the exam before you start
>>>>> the
>>>>> traditional configuration portion.
>>>>> * You have a total of 30 minutes to complete this section, you
>>>>> may
>>>>> finish early if you like and immediately begin your configuration
>>>> section.
>>>>> * You will receive 4 questions via the computer and you must
>>> provide
>>>>> short answers using the computer interface. The questions are not
>> oral
>>> in
>>>>> nature. Typical responses require 4 to 5 words at most.
>>>>> * Spelling and/or grammar does not count against you.
>>>>> * The questions are manually graded by a proctor. If you
>>>>> purchase
>>> an
>>>>> exam re-read, they will re-grade your question responses.
>>>>> * You may not return to the short answer questions once you have
>>> begun
>>>>> the configuration portion of the lab exam.
>>>>> * You will not receive a score when you complete this section,
>>>>> but
>>> you
>>>>> must pass this portion to pass the CCIE. You will receive your
>>>>> score
>>> in
>>>> the
>>>>> open-ended section if you fail the exam. The score is reported
>>>>> as 0%
>>> or
>>>> 100%
>>>>> (pass or fail). You may only miss one question in the section in
>> order
>>> to
>>>>> pass.
>>>>> * Most students finish the 4 to 5 questions in approximately 12
>>>> minutes.
>>>>> * The configuration portion of the exam has been reduced to
>>>> accommodate
>>>>> this initial 30 minutes.
>>>>> * You still have a total of 8 hours that makeup the open-ended
>>>> questions
>>>>> and the configuration portion.
>>>>> * You may not access the DOC-CD to answer these questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that list answers your questions, but if you are concerned
>>> about
>>>>> anything else - let us know!
>>>>>
>>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
>>>>> Senior CCIE Instructor
>>>>>
>>>>> asequeira_at_internetworkexpert.com
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 16, 2009, at 12:17 PM, michael haynes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure how much I'm allowed to ask about the Core questions,
>>> but
>>>> I'm
>>>>>> also feeling very anxious about this section even though my lab
>> isn't
>>>> for
>>>>>> awhile still. When this section was first announced, I was
>>>>>> under
>>> the
>>>>>> impression that the questions would be graded prior to allowing
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> candidate to sit the lab portion - if you potentially are
>>>>>> writing an
>>>>>> essay,
>>>>>> what kind of delay does that give you between completing that
>> section
>>>> and
>>>>>> getting the go-ahead to start the lab...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And if it's all graded at the end of the 8 hours, that seems
>>>>>> kind of
>>>> cruel
>>>>>> when you can fail all your marks by getting 2 core questions
>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone can elaborate without breaking NDA, I'd sure appreciate
>>> some
>>>>>> insight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Bryan Bartik <
>> bbartik_at_ipexpert.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would not worry about being too brief. If the answer can be
>>>>>>> said
>>> in 3
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>> words, than that's all you need. I am only mentioning this so
>>>>>>> you
>>> don't
>>>>>>> worry about having too short an answer. That being said, I don't
>>> think
>>>> it
>>>>>>> would hurt to elaborate if possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bryan Bartik
>>>>>>> CCIE #23707, CCNP
>>>>>>> Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.ipexpert.com/> <
>> http://www.ipexpert.com/> <
>>> http://www.ipexpert.com/> <
>>>> http://www.ipexpert.com/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Jonny English <
>>>> redkidneybeans_at_gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> good luck man. 1st attempt, just don't have any expectations and
>>> don't
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> too much pressure on yourself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you will be fine.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Chris Kleban <
>>>> Chris.Kleban_at_citrix.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wish me luck.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm more nervous about the 30 minute open ended questions then
>> the
>>>> lab
>>>>>>>>> work....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chris Kleban
>>>>>>>>>
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