From: Radioactive Frog (pbhatkoti@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Mar 29 2009 - 10:30:29 ART
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Tony Edwards <tonyedwards.rs@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Frog , Larry , Scott and It guy ,
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> Thanks a lot for your words of encouragement on my situation.
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> I must admit , Frog's "what about this" suggestion sounded like "not bad
> idea at all" considering ever growing demand & growth on converged comms
> arena , even though Larry's "Stick with it. A well rounded IE is a real
> asset to any company" comment makes lot of sense as well.
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> On 3/29/09, Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Dude,
>> don't be scare of MS exchange server - its kiddie stuffs.
>> Main thing is integration, its well documented - exchange to CCM.
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>> It's always good to do multiple task and not being cisco centric. You
>> learn a lot from other stuffs.
>> I think you should also youstop worrying about getting R&S cert. Belive me
>> thats just a paper [bloody hard to get it though], that won't teach you
>> multiple things.
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>> How many people on this list knows CWDM/DWDM? I bet not more than 5%.
>> Aren't you lucky that you've got or getting opportunity to work on?
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>> I wish I had a boss who give to work with multiple area. I love playing
>> with multiple things :) thats fun !
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>> what about this:
>> Forget about R&S and just do the voice hands on stuffs first, then prepare
>> for voice lab? - remember Voice pays more than R&S.
>> Voice experience without the cert will pay you what a guy with R&S gets.
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>> I am not sure if that applies to where you are living but certainly here
>> in Australia its the case.
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>> MOC and exchange servers are -=- next> next> next and finish thing type of
>> wizards. don't be scared of them.
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>> my 2 cents!
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>> -frog
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>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:31 PM, <itguy.pro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> In multi vendor environment you should be prepared for stuff like this.
>>> After taking narbiks bootcamp last year and have a full lab at home, we
>>> deployed ms exchange 2007 and UC at work so now I'm going to knock out at
>>> least the first exchange exam before hitting RS again.
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:38:20
>>> To: Tony Edwards<tonyedwards.rs@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Cisco Engineers expected to know MS Technologies?
>>>
>>>
>>> Or you can always get out of enterprise work and go the service provider
>>> route. Plenty of routing/switching there, and a lot less end users to
>>> deal
>>> with on that level. The Network Engineer of today is becoming the Net
>>> Engineer/MS admin/help desk guy all rolled into one.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Tony Edwards <tonyedwards.rs@gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi GS,
>>> >
>>> > I am just wondering whether any one going through same situation as of
>>> > me...
>>> >
>>> > - Still dreaming & dragging my feet on still allusive RS IE ###.
>>> Intention
>>> > is still there but unable to focus and drive home the desired result
>>> > , Primarily because of diversified technologies requirements from Boss
>>> at
>>> > work.
>>> >
>>> > - which is not at all bad thing as my employer is using me on various
>>> > projects such as RS WAN & LAN , Data Centre technologies such as WAN
>>> > Accelerators , WDM SAN + IP Tel or UC + Wireless + NW Management
>>> systems
>>> > such as CW or ACS ..etc.
>>> >
>>> > - Even though I am enjoying these sorts of technical challenges at work
>>> ,
>>> > the biggest problem I am going through right now is having to deal with
>>> > divided Loyalty between my old love RS and my new love UC.
>>> >
>>> > - Hence am unable to do justice to neither of IE lab exam prep/focus, I
>>> am
>>> > afraid.
>>> >
>>> > - For example , I can see my Christmas coming to me already in 2009
>>> with 3
>>> > x
>>> > major upcoming projects such as UC 5 to UC 7 migration , Microsoft
>>> Exchange
>>> > 2007 Unified Messaging Voice Mail deployment and MS OCS MOC deployments
>>> > knocking my door.
>>> >
>>> > - So Instead of getting Fluent or consolidate my RS technologies skills
>>> > towards my unfinished RS Lab exam , I am now studying & working on on
>>> > Microsoft UC technologies.Since they fall under MS banner , I tried to
>>> push
>>> > them to our server team as me being a comms engineer do not have
>>> advanced
>>> > exchange server or exchange 2007 UC skills.
>>> >
>>> > - But the answer came back that , since I do maintain end to end Data &
>>> > current cisco IP Tel platforms, they reckon that I am their best bet to
>>> > manager their Microsoft UC environment as well , which I know nothing
>>> about
>>> > till now.
>>> >
>>> > - Now the Question is that , I can see the trend of increasing
>>> expectations
>>> > from employers on Cisco Network engineers on upcoming MS UC as well.
>>> Are we
>>> > seeing this as a future road map of overlaying MS & Cisco Skill sets ,
>>> > particularly when UC field is going to be equally shared by these 2
>>> vendors
>>> > with in Enterprise space ? And in these potentially recession times , I
>>> > guess the best you can do is to keep your mouth shut and do your best
>>> > whatever the project your employer dumps on your plate.
>>> >
>>> > -In a way , I am existed to get my hands dirty on this new UC kid in
>>> the
>>> > block.
>>> >
>>> > - But the biggest draw back is that , I am moving further away from my
>>> > unfinished job of RS lab :-(
>>> >
>>> > - And recently , I am also began contemplating of dumping my old love
>>> of RS
>>> > lab and instead run after Voice IE lab.
>>> >
>>> > - But the fact that Voice lab is lot more tougher to crack when
>>> compared to
>>> > RS lab and also because I came very close on RS lab some 2 years ago ,
>>> > perhaps , I am unable to let go my RS ## ambitions just yet.
>>> >
>>> > - At the same time , it will be tough to keep working on advanced &
>>> > interesting Voice projects @ work and come home and dust off my RS
>>> books
>>> > and
>>> > racks and pursue that old love :-(
>>> >
>>> > any advise guys ?
>>> >
>>> > tony
>>> >
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