Re: Cisco Engineers expected to know MS Technologies?

From: Radioactive Frog (pbhatkoti@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Mar 28 2009 - 23:09:54 ART


Dude,
don't be scare of MS exchange server - its kiddie stuffs.
Main thing is integration, its well documented - exchange to CCM.

It's always good to do multiple task and not being cisco centric. You learn
a lot from other stuffs.
I think you should also youstop worrying about getting R&S cert. Belive me
thats just a paper [bloody hard to get it though], that won't teach you
multiple things.

How many people on this list knows CWDM/DWDM? I bet not more than 5%. Aren't
you lucky that you've got or getting opportunity to work on?

I wish I had a boss who give to work with multiple area. I love playing with
multiple things :) thats fun !

what about this:
Forget about R&S and just do the voice hands on stuffs first, then prepare
for voice lab? - remember Voice pays more than R&S.
Voice experience without the cert will pay you what a guy with R&S gets.

I am not sure if that applies to where you are living but certainly here in
Australia its the case.

MOC and exchange servers are -=- next> next> next and finish thing type of
wizards. don't be scared of them.

my 2 cents!

-frog

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:31 PM, <itguy.pro@gmail.com> wrote:

> In multi vendor environment you should be prepared for stuff like this.
> After taking narbiks bootcamp last year and have a full lab at home, we
> deployed ms exchange 2007 and UC at work so now I'm going to knock out at
> least the first exchange exam before hitting RS again.
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com>
>
> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:38:20
> To: Tony Edwards<tonyedwards.rs@gmail.com>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Subject: Re: Cisco Engineers expected to know MS Technologies?
>
>
> Or you can always get out of enterprise work and go the service provider
> route. Plenty of routing/switching there, and a lot less end users to deal
> with on that level. The Network Engineer of today is becoming the Net
> Engineer/MS admin/help desk guy all rolled into one.
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Tony Edwards <tonyedwards.rs@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi GS,
> >
> > I am just wondering whether any one going through same situation as of
> > me...
> >
> > - Still dreaming & dragging my feet on still allusive RS IE ###.
> Intention
> > is still there but unable to focus and drive home the desired result
> > , Primarily because of diversified technologies requirements from Boss at
> > work.
> >
> > - which is not at all bad thing as my employer is using me on various
> > projects such as RS WAN & LAN , Data Centre technologies such as WAN
> > Accelerators , WDM SAN + IP Tel or UC + Wireless + NW Management systems
> > such as CW or ACS ..etc.
> >
> > - Even though I am enjoying these sorts of technical challenges at work ,
> > the biggest problem I am going through right now is having to deal with
> > divided Loyalty between my old love RS and my new love UC.
> >
> > - Hence am unable to do justice to neither of IE lab exam prep/focus, I
> am
> > afraid.
> >
> > - For example , I can see my Christmas coming to me already in 2009 with
> 3
> > x
> > major upcoming projects such as UC 5 to UC 7 migration , Microsoft
> Exchange
> > 2007 Unified Messaging Voice Mail deployment and MS OCS MOC deployments
> > knocking my door.
> >
> > - So Instead of getting Fluent or consolidate my RS technologies skills
> > towards my unfinished RS Lab exam , I am now studying & working on on
> > Microsoft UC technologies.Since they fall under MS banner , I tried to
> push
> > them to our server team as me being a comms engineer do not have advanced
> > exchange server or exchange 2007 UC skills.
> >
> > - But the answer came back that , since I do maintain end to end Data &
> > current cisco IP Tel platforms, they reckon that I am their best bet to
> > manager their Microsoft UC environment as well , which I know nothing
> about
> > till now.
> >
> > - Now the Question is that , I can see the trend of increasing
> expectations
> > from employers on Cisco Network engineers on upcoming MS UC as well. Are
> we
> > seeing this as a future road map of overlaying MS & Cisco Skill sets ,
> > particularly when UC field is going to be equally shared by these 2
> vendors
> > with in Enterprise space ? And in these potentially recession times , I
> > guess the best you can do is to keep your mouth shut and do your best
> > whatever the project your employer dumps on your plate.
> >
> > -In a way , I am existed to get my hands dirty on this new UC kid in the
> > block.
> >
> > - But the biggest draw back is that , I am moving further away from my
> > unfinished job of RS lab :-(
> >
> > - And recently , I am also began contemplating of dumping my old love of
> RS
> > lab and instead run after Voice IE lab.
> >
> > - But the fact that Voice lab is lot more tougher to crack when compared
> to
> > RS lab and also because I came very close on RS lab some 2 years ago ,
> > perhaps , I am unable to let go my RS ## ambitions just yet.
> >
> > - At the same time , it will be tough to keep working on advanced &
> > interesting Voice projects @ work and come home and dust off my RS books
> > and
> > racks and pursue that old love :-(
> >
> > any advise guys ?
> >
> > tony
> >
> >
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