From: Persio Pucci (persio@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Mar 23 2009 - 09:19:01 ART
Scott,
Couldn't agree more with you. That's how I felt during the 360 program
and during my lab. The workbook labs were excruciatingly painful!
Cannot remember how many times I ended the day with a headache and
physically exhausted. After 20 labs or so, I was so well prepared it
FELT the lab was easy. However by no means the lab was easy at all. I
just had a good understanding on most of the topics, and had plenty of
time to research on things I did not have a good grip. Just like
anything in life, practice will make it flow naturally.
- Persio
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Scott Morris
<smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> Or (as is the goal of any training method (IF people follow instructions))
> perhaps the training is just really teaching the material and therefore
> people are prepared!
>
> My goal has always been to over-prepare people. Strive for aiming high, and
> then aiming a little lower should be simple! but that, by no means, says
> that the lab is any easier nor am I (or the 360 program, given it's
> exposure) would be teaching the test.
>
> I certainly can't speak with first-hand knowledge about the 360 materials,
> but knowing the people involved fairly well, I would find itt VERY difficult
> to believe they were teaching to the exam.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> Scott
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Tony
> Schaffran (GS)
> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:24 PM
> To: 'Persio Pucci'; 'Larry Hadrava'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Cisco 360 program
>
> If everybody passes on their first attempt, then what is the good of the
> cert?
>
> Either the 360 program is teaching the test or the lab has gotten too easy.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Persio Pucci
> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 5:48 PM
> To: Larry Hadrava
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Cisco 360 program
>
> Hey Larry,
>
> First time I joined the Groupstudy forum I remember they were right on
> the 12000... And for my first attempt, it still had ISDN (mine never
> went up/up, go figure) ATM (and they wanted an SVC for a dial test)
> and Dial itself on the lab... This time it was much easier... but the
> fact that I knew the monster already kind of helped too.
>
> As for the 360, from the 6 guys I had on my class (it was delivered
> in-company), 4 passed on first try (including myself), one failed and
> one still did not take the lab.
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Larry Hadrava <lhadrava@ipexpert.com>
> wrote:
>> Persio:
>> Wow - great feedback. So you took the lab back when I did when we still
> had
>> to deal with ISDN and the like. Glad to see that you decided to give it
>> another shot after so many years.
>> Congratulations!!!
>> Larry Hadrava
>> CCIE #12203 CCNP CCNA
>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:34 PM, <persio@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Pamela,
>>>
>>> I've used the 360 program for my CCIE R&S lab and all I can say is it was
>>> awesome. I used NMC for the 360, and all I can say is their material is
>>> fantastic. The workbooks, the lab scenarios, they are all really up to
> the
>>> challenge. Their graded lab system is the state of the art on regards to
>>> lab
>>> preparation.
>>>
>>> Their philosophy on making you understand the lab rather than teaching
> you
>>> how
>>> to pass it is fantastic. It was almost an overkill to the lab I had.
>>>
>>> Technically it was my second lab attempt, but since my first attempt was
> 6
>>> years ago, I consider it a first-attempt pass.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Persio Pucci
>>> CCIE# 22112 - R&S
>>>
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