From: Scott Morris (smorris@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Mon Mar 23 2009 - 07:21:54 ART
Or (as is the goal of any training method (IF people follow instructions))
perhaps the training is just really teaching the material and therefore
people are prepared!
My goal has always been to over-prepare people. Strive for aiming high, and
then aiming a little lower should be simple! but that, by no means, says
that the lab is any easier nor am I (or the 360 program, given it's
exposure) would be teaching the test.
I certainly can't speak with first-hand knowledge about the 360 materials,
but knowing the people involved fairly well, I would find itt VERY difficult
to believe they were teaching to the exam.
Just my two cents.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Schaffran (GS)
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:24 PM
To: 'Persio Pucci'; 'Larry Hadrava'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Cisco 360 program
If everybody passes on their first attempt, then what is the good of the
cert?
Either the 360 program is teaching the test or the lab has gotten too easy.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Persio Pucci
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 5:48 PM
To: Larry Hadrava
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Cisco 360 program
Hey Larry,
First time I joined the Groupstudy forum I remember they were right on
the 12000... And for my first attempt, it still had ISDN (mine never
went up/up, go figure) ATM (and they wanted an SVC for a dial test)
and Dial itself on the lab... This time it was much easier... but the
fact that I knew the monster already kind of helped too.
As for the 360, from the 6 guys I had on my class (it was delivered
in-company), 4 passed on first try (including myself), one failed and
one still did not take the lab.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Larry Hadrava <lhadrava@ipexpert.com>
wrote:
> Persio:
> Wow - great feedback. So you took the lab back when I did when we still
had
> to deal with ISDN and the like. Glad to see that you decided to give it
> another shot after so many years.
> Congratulations!!!
> Larry Hadrava
> CCIE #12203 CCNP CCNA
> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:34 PM, <persio@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Pamela,
>>
>> I've used the 360 program for my CCIE R&S lab and all I can say is it was
>> awesome. I used NMC for the 360, and all I can say is their material is
>> fantastic. The workbooks, the lab scenarios, they are all really up to
the
>> challenge. Their graded lab system is the state of the art on regards to
>> lab
>> preparation.
>>
>> Their philosophy on making you understand the lab rather than teaching
you
>> how
>> to pass it is fantastic. It was almost an overkill to the lab I had.
>>
>> Technically it was my second lab attempt, but since my first attempt was
6
>> years ago, I consider it a first-attempt pass.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Persio Pucci
>> CCIE# 22112 - R&S
>>
>>
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