From: Persio Pucci (persio@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Mar 21 2009 - 11:00:40 ART
I'd say neither one. The program definitely does not teach the lab,
rather it teaches you to see through the lab questions. And the lab is
not easy. From the team that had the 360 bootcamps with me, we all
have 10+ years of experience with networking. I'd say that the
workbook labs are at the same level or harder than the real lab, so if
you practice 20+ workbook labs that are harder than the real thing
(and by practice I mean try, fail, understand what you did wrong) you
stand a better chance at passing it on first try.
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Tony Schaffran (GS)
<groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
> If everybody passes on their first attempt, then what is the good of the
> cert?
>
> Either the 360 program is teaching the test or the lab has gotten too easy.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Persio Pucci
> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 5:48 PM
> To: Larry Hadrava
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Cisco 360 program
>
> Hey Larry,
>
> First time I joined the Groupstudy forum I remember they were right on
> the 12000... And for my first attempt, it still had ISDN (mine never
> went up/up, go figure) ATM (and they wanted an SVC for a dial test)
> and Dial itself on the lab... This time it was much easier... but the
> fact that I knew the monster already kind of helped too.
>
> As for the 360, from the 6 guys I had on my class (it was delivered
> in-company), 4 passed on first try (including myself), one failed and
> one still did not take the lab.
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Larry Hadrava <lhadrava@ipexpert.com>
> wrote:
>> Persio:
>> Wow - great feedback. So you took the lab back when I did when we still
> had
>> to deal with ISDN and the like. Glad to see that you decided to give it
>> another shot after so many years.
>> Congratulations!!!
>> Larry Hadrava
>> CCIE #12203 CCNP CCNA
>> Sr. Support Engineer IPexpert, Inc.
>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:34 PM, <persio@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Pamela,
>>>
>>> I've used the 360 program for my CCIE R&S lab and all I can say is it was
>>> awesome. I used NMC for the 360, and all I can say is their material is
>>> fantastic. The workbooks, the lab scenarios, they are all really up to
> the
>>> challenge. Their graded lab system is the state of the art on regards to
>>> lab
>>> preparation.
>>>
>>> Their philosophy on making you understand the lab rather than teaching
> you
>>> how
>>> to pass it is fantastic. It was almost an overkill to the lab I had.
>>>
>>> Technically it was my second lab attempt, but since my first attempt was
> 6
>>> years ago, I consider it a first-attempt pass.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Persio Pucci
>>> CCIE# 22112 - R&S
>>>
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