From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jan 19 2009 - 20:06:50 ARST
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On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unless you are a CCNA with a lot influence with a lot of CCIE's and those
> aspiring to be.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Scott Morris <
> smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>
>> Tell ya what... I'll get a shirt printed up with ALL of the new logos
>> that I would be allowed to use, and wear it to a Cisco function just to see
>> how many people tell me what a dork I look like. Then I'll change into a
>> shirt with the "old" logo on there and see what the reaction happens to be.
>>
>> Some people may still tell me I'm a dork and I'm ok with that... but it
>> won't be nearly as many.
>>
>> And to vote, one should obtain the certification. No sense in having a
>> CCNA tell me what's good for the CCIE program, is there?
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nortic @hackermail.com [mailto:nortic@hackermail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:49 AM
>> To: Groupstudy @ CrespoNetworks; Scott Morris
>> Cc: 'Marko Milivojevic'; swm@emanon.com; 'Scott M Vermillion'; 'Yandy
>> Ramirez'; 'Andrew Larkins'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
>>
>> The old one looks like it was designed almost 20 years ago, ooh wait, it
>> was! The new logo's look much better and the "CCNP - Service Provider" move
>> is a good one. It shows Cisco is serious about branding their
>> certifications. That said some bad moves have been made as well e.g the CCDE
>> number format, after that the CCDE dropped from a 9/10 to a 4/10 on my
>> awesometer.
>>
>> For every petition to keep the old logo there will be a petition to keep
>> the new ones. I am glad the new logo designs favor multiple IE's as I prefer
>> to have a logo for each CCIE than to have one for all.
>>
>> Is change really that hard?
>>
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Groupstudy @ CrespoNetworks" <groupstudy@cresponet.com>
>> > To: "Scott Morris" <smorris@internetworkexpert.com>
>> > Cc: "'Marko Milivojevic'" <markom@markom.info>, swm@emanon.com, "'Scott
>> M Vermillion'" <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>, "'Yandy Ramirez'" <
>> yandyr@gmail.com>, "'Andrew Larkins'" <Andrew.Larkins@bytes.co.za>,
>> ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
>> > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:09:33 -0500
>> >
>> >
>> > I agree... Where do sign up? We should start a online petition or
>> > something. The CCIE logo absolutely should be different from the rest
>> > of their cert's. The old one is more than adequate. If they want to
>> > update it, then they should just introduce a cool colored version of the
>> > B/W one. That way everything is preserved:
>> >
>> > Maintain Brand Recognition
>> > Ten Year Achievement
>> > Multiple Track Signification
>> > Different that the lower certs
>> > Updated logo (colored in addition to B/W) <-- for Cisco
>> >
>> > See... Everyone happy... (except, of course, for people that like the
>> > new logo...)
>> >
>> > J
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Scott Morris wrote:
>> > > They likely are. Or someone will forward it on. Whether it
>> > > makes a difference or not is another story.
>> > >
>> > > Or whether it gets forwarded high enough up the chain, I'm not
>> > > sure. There are a lot of things that can be changed in the world
>> > > with grassroots movements... perhaps this could be one of them?
>> > > :)
>> > >
>> > > Scott
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: markom@gmail.com [mailto:markom@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
>> > > Marko Milivojevic
>> > > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:01 PM
>> > > To: swm@emanon.com
>> > > Cc: Scott Morris; Scott M Vermillion; Yandy Ramirez; Andrew
>> > > Larkins; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > > Subject: Re: New CCIE logo
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 23:47, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Just promise me you won't open up a cert support ticket about it! :)
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > Ah, you see! That's a bloody good idea! If I do that, the whole new
>> > > thing may collapse and they may be forced to roll back.
>> > >
>> > > Btw. new logos, suck on so many levels. Did you notice that there is
>> > > no vector version any longer? We're stuck with 3 sizes, which look
>> > > disgusting at best when printed out. Not to mention that there is no
>> > > official B&W version.
>> > >
>> > > What a sloppy work, I can't believe it. What the hell is wrong with
>> > > what once was the greatest certification program? Sure, I hold some
>> > > grudge about failing CCDE, but really, this is nonsense.
>> > >
>> > > And yeah, I hope they are reading.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>> > >
>> > >
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